<div dir="ltr"><div>Your assumption is that H represents the number of nodes the spots have gone through before reaching you.</div><div>I think this assumption is wrong.</div><div>First, the hop count is DECREMENTED at each hop.</div><div>Second, the hop count to use while sending a spot is configurable.</div><div><br></div><div>Tracking the path is helpful to analyse from where the spots are coming in.</div><div>Analyzing logs from a few nodes you can understand what is the common entry point.</div><div><br></div><div>73s</div><div><br></div><div>Andrea</div><div> </div><div><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">--></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 4:57 PM Rudy Bakalov <<a href="mailto:r_bakalov@yahoo.com" target="_blank">r_bakalov@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="ltr">Let’s think this thru:<div><br></div><div>1/Logs show spots with H as high as 98! Recording the node of each hop will increase PC61 payload on average 6 characters per hop. Let’s say average H is 50, that would be 300 characters plus the delimiters or about 350 characters.</div><div>2/My cluster received over 80K spots per minute. Imagine the traffic created by 80K messages with additional 350 characters per PC61 message.</div><div><br></div><div>Can you describe the full algorithm you are proposing? How are you going to use the additional data to make a decision to accept or drop a spot?</div><div><br></div><div>When comparing PC61 to BGP remember that BGP is designed to support two-way data flows. PC61 is strictly one-way and doesn’t need routing overhead.</div><div><br></div><div>Rudy N2WQ</div><div><br id="m_-8399493455061667165m_-6741080013664300536lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir="ltr"><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Sent using a tiny keyboard. Please excuse brevity, typos, or inappropriate autocorrect.</span></div><div><br></div></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Mar 12, 2025, at 11:19 AM, IZ2LSC via Dxspider-support <<a href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk" target="_blank">dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Mike, this is why I'm saying that we need to record the whole path, not only the last hop.</div><div>Every node has to append it's ID.</div><div>Andrea</div><div><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature">--></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 2:05 PM Mike McCarthy, W1NR via Dxspider-support <<a href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk" target="_blank">dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">The current release does tag spots from the incoming node partner with a <br>
"via" tag. You would need to analyze all the logs in between, using the <br>
"via" tag to trace it back to the source.<br>
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On 3/12/2025 8:06 AM, IZ2LSC via Dxspider-support wrote:<br>
> We are all senior developer with AI!<br>
> At least you agreed that what you proposed for partner identity is not a <br>
> solution against the flooding.<br>
> Perhaps do you also agree about the need to record the spot path?<br>
> <br>
> 73<br>
> <br>
> Andrea<br>
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