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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=rynqvb><span lang=EN>My reply was delayed.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=rynqvb><span lang=EN>I even use the "bad
word" filter to complement your filter.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=ES style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>De:</span></b><span
lang=ES style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Dxspider-support
[mailto:dxspider-support-bounces@tobit.co.uk] <b>En nombre de </b>Keith, G6NHU
via Dxspider-support<br>
<b>Enviado el:</b> lunes, 17 de marzo de 2025 15:30<br>
<b>Para:</b> The DXSpider Support list<br>
<b>CC:</b> Keith, G6NHU<br>
<b>Asunto:</b> Re: [Dxspider-support] FTx autogenerated spots<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>It’s not for the amount of data, Kin, it’s because I object
to carrying repetitive adverts for other clusters. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I don’t believe that’s what the announcement feature is
really for. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>73 Keith<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On 17 Mar 2025 at 17:24 +0000, Kin via Dxspider-support <<a
href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk">dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</a>>,
wrote:<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I</span><span
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><span class=spelle><span
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>don't</span></span><span
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><span class=spelle><span
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>understand</span></span><span
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><span style='font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Keith,</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>
</span><span class=spelle><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>why</span></span><span
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><span class=spelle><span
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>you</span></span><span
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><span class=spelle><span
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>leave</span></span><span
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><span class=spelle><span
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>the</span></span><span
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><span class=spelle><span
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>user</span></span><span
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><span style='font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"'>free</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>
</span><span class=spelle><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>for</span></span><span
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><span class=spelle><span
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>the</span></span><span
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><span style='font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"'>spots,</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>
</span><span class=spelle><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>but</span></span><span
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><span class=spelle><span
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>not</span></span><span
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><span class=spelle><span
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>for</span></span><span
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><span class=spelle><span
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>the</span></span><span
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><span class=spelle><span
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>ann</span></span><span
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>,</span><span style='font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><span class=spelle><span style='font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"'>which</span></span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>
</span><span class=spelle><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>represent</span></span><span
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><span style='font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"'>a</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>
</span><span class=spelle><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>very</span></span><span
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><span class=spelle><span
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>small</span></span><span
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><span class=spelle><span
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>amount</span></span><span
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><span class=spelle><span
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>compared</span></span><span
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><span class=spelle><span
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>to</span></span><span
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><span class=spelle><span
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>the</span></span><span
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><span style='font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"'>spots.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Kin EA3CV</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><strong><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>De:</span></strong>
<span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Dxspider-support
<dxspider-support-bounces@tobit.co.uk> <strong><span style='font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"'>En nombre de</span></strong> Keith, G6NHU via
Dxspider-support</span><br>
<strong><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Enviado
el:</span></strong><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>
lunes, 17 de marzo de 2025 18:11</span><br>
<strong><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Para:</span></strong><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> The DXSpider
Support list <dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk></span><br>
<strong><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>CC:</span></strong><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Keith, G6NHU
<g6nhu@me.com></span><br>
<strong><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Asunto:</span></strong><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Re:
[Dxspider-support] FTx autogenerated spots</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I’m
with Andy on this, I think it should be something for users to decide whether
they show them or not. I want to give my users the choice what they
see and not dictate to them.</span><br>
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<span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>With one caveat
- Node advertising spam announcements which I filter out by having this line in
my startup file. If I could stop forwarding these on, I’d happily do
so.</span><br>
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<span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Menlo","serif";color:black'>rej/ann
node_default input info telnet,cluster,7000,7300,7373,8000,8888,9000,17300,port</span><br>
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<span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>73 Keith</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On 17 Mar 2025 at 16:44 +0000, g4piq via Dxspider-support
<dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk>, wrote:<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I generally prefer the principle of dropping spots at the
user level rather than on the backbone (unless they are at such a rate as to be
dangerous). That way the sysio can configure their node to do what's right fir
them and their user base - not what someone else further upstream thinks should
be right for them. If we don't apply this principle then the spider ends up
becoming closer to a full mesh...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>73<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Andy, G4PIQ <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:#575757'>Sent from my
Galaxy</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>-------- Original message --------</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>From: Dirk Koopman via
Dxspider-support <dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Date: 17/03/2025 15:14 (GMT+00:00)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>To: Rob Roschewsk via
Dxspider-support <dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Cc: Dirk Koopman
<djk@tobit.co.uk></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Subject: [Dxspider-support] FTx
autogenerated spots</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt'>In the spirit of discouraging
client programs generating spots automatically when they work something, or for
other reasons that make life difficult for sysops and users that don't use
digital modes, I have introduced the following system variable:</span> <strong><span
style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>$DXProt::remove_auto_ftx</span></strong>
<span style='font-size:13.5pt'>which, as default (in the test branch), is
currently set to 1.</span><br>
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<span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>DX de
WA2JQZ: 28180.0
DL2KBX FT4
DM78<>JO30
14 1415Z 5</span><br>
<span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>DX de
G0LZX: 28074.0
W0JJG FT8 -15dB
1265Hz
4 1415Z IO83</span><br>
<span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>DX de
CP6UA: 24915.0
CP6UA FT8 FH82jf ->
FH82jf
10 1414Z 10</span><br>
<span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>DX de
G0LZX: 28074.0 N9AKR
FT8 -13dB from EN61
200Hz
4 1414Z IO83</span><br>
<span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>DX de
G0LZX: 28074.0
G0JEI FT8 -20dB
520Hz
IO93 1412Z IO83</span><br>
<span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>DX de
WA2JQZ: 28180.0
MW7TTA FT4
DM78<>IO73
IO73 1411Z 5</span><br>
<span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>DX de
IZ0FYO: 28180.0
9Z4Y FT4 JN61og ->
FK90
FK90 1410Z 15</span><br>
<span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>DX de
IZ1PLH: 21076.0
BG0HP FT8 -15 dB from
NL59
23 1410Z JN34</span><br>
<span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>DX de
WA2JQZ: 28180.0
OT7X FT4
DM78<>JO10
14 1408Z 5</span><br>
<span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>DX de
G0LZX: 28074.0
CE3SOC FT8 -12dB from FF46
1295Hz
FF46 1408Z IO83</span><br>
<span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>DX de
YC1JEL: 28180.0
RA4M FT4 -04dB
2426Hz
LO44 1441Z 28</span><br>
<span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>DX de
GM0LIR: 24919.0
6Y7EI FT4 +06dB
1585Hz
8 1442Z IO85</span><br>
<span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>DX de
G0LZX: 28074.0
YC1JEA FT8 -07dB from OI33 671Hz </span><br>
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<span style='font-size:13.5pt'>would become:</span><br>
<br>
<span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>DX de
WA2JQZ: 28180.0 DL2KBX
FT4
DM78<>JO30
14 1415Z 5</span><br>
<span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>DX de
CP6UA: 24915.0
CP6UA FT8 FH82jf ->
FH82jf
10 1414Z 10</span><br>
<span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>DX de
WA2JQZ: 28180.0
MW7TTA FT4
DM78<>IO73
IO73 1411Z 5</span><br>
<span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>DX de
IZ0FYO: 28180.0
9Z4Y FT4 JN61og ->
FK90
FK90 1410Z 15</span><br>
<span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>DX de
WA2JQZ: 28180.0
OT7X FT4
DM78<>JO10
14 1408Z 5</span><br>
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<span style='font-size:13.5pt'>It is, of course, likely that these spots that
are left are auto generated too - but at least they provide some useful
information. If it is deemed necessary, I can get rid of these as well,
together with all the other FTx spots if necessary.</span><br>
<br>
<span style='font-size:13.5pt'>Some people may think this is overkill, but the
spot feed is filling up with more and more useless spots, most of which are
machine generated. Someone has to take a stand. Now where did I put that wobbly
pedestal I bought from the charity shop the other year?</span><br>
<br>
<span style='font-size:13.5pt'>You should be made aware, the place that this is
currently done, means that these spots are dropped at the PC11/PC61 protocol
level - they won't be passed onward to other nodes... You may not like that...
It doesn't have to work this way, it could be a user command. Please see the
next paragraph.</span><br>
<br>
<span style='font-size:13.5pt'>Someone was complaining that this list is too
quiet. Maybe this will liven it up.</span><br>
<br>
<span style='font-size:13.5pt'>73 Dirk G1TLH</span><br>
<br>
<span style='font-size:13.5pt'>PS I just got a bit sick of the lack of
"normal" v "FTx" spots whilst testing the deduping code so
I thought "I know, I've meaning to do this for ages and it's only an extra
8 lines of code and a few comments".</span><br>
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