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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I
completely agree.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I
filter spam from other nodes as well.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I
think it's ridiculous to advertise OTHER NODES on MY node.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>73,
Jose<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Dxspider-support [mailto:dxspider-support-bounces@tobit.co.uk] <b>En nombre de </b>Keith,
G6NHU via Dxspider-support<br>
<b>Enviado el:</b> lunes, 17 de marzo de 2025 14:11<br>
<b>Para:</b> The DXSpider Support list<br>
<b>CC:</b> Keith, G6NHU<br>
<b>Asunto:</b> Re: [Dxspider-support] FTx autogenerated spots<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I’m
with Andy on this, I think it should be something for users to decide whether
they show them or not. I want to give my users the choice what they
see and not dictate to them.</span><span style='font-size:13.5pt'><br>
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</span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>With one
caveat - Node advertising spam announcements which I filter out by having this
line in my startup file. If I could stop forwarding these on, I’d
happily do so.</span><span style='font-size:13.5pt'><br>
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</span><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Menlo","serif";color:black'>rej/ann
node_default input info telnet,cluster,7000,7300,7373,8000,8888,9000,17300,port</span><span
style='font-size:8.5pt'><br>
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</span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>73 Keith</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On 17 Mar 2025 at 16:44 +0000, g4piq via Dxspider-support
<dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk>, wrote:<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I generally prefer the principle of dropping spots at the
user level rather than on the backbone (unless they are at such a rate as to be
dangerous). That way the sysio can configure their node to do what's right fir
them and their user base - not what someone else further upstream thinks should
be right for them. If we don't apply this principle then the spider ends up
becoming closer to a full mesh...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Andy, G4PIQ <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:#575757'>Sent from my
Galaxy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>-------- Original message --------<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>From: Dirk Koopman via
Dxspider-support <dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Date: 17/03/2025 15:14 (GMT+00:00)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>To: Rob Roschewsk via
Dxspider-support <dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Cc: Dirk Koopman
<djk@tobit.co.uk><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Subject: [Dxspider-support] FTx
autogenerated spots<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt'>In the spirit of discouraging
client programs generating spots automatically when they work something, or for
other reasons that make life difficult for sysops and users that don't use
digital modes, I have introduced the following system variable: </span><b><span
style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>$DXProt::remove_auto_ftx</span></b><span
style='font-size:13.5pt'> which, as default (in the test branch), is currently
set to 1.<br>
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</span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>DX de
WA2JQZ: 28180.0
DL2KBX FT4
DM78<>JO30
14 1415Z 5<br>
DX de G0LZX: 28074.0
W0JJG FT8 -15dB
1265Hz
4 1415Z IO83<br>
DX de CP6UA: 24915.0
CP6UA FT8 FH82jf ->
FH82jf
10 1414Z 10<br>
DX de G0LZX: 28074.0
N9AKR FT8 -13dB from EN61
200Hz
4 1414Z IO83<br>
DX de G0LZX: 28074.0
G0JEI FT8 -20dB
520Hz
IO93 1412Z IO83<br>
DX de WA2JQZ: 28180.0
MW7TTA FT4
DM78<>IO73
IO73 1411Z 5<br>
DX de IZ0FYO: 28180.0
9Z4Y FT4 JN61og ->
FK90
FK90 1410Z 15<br>
DX de IZ1PLH: 21076.0
BG0HP FT8 -15 dB from
NL59
23 1410Z JN34<br>
DX de WA2JQZ: 28180.0
OT7X FT4
DM78<>JO10
14 1408Z 5<br>
DX de G0LZX: 28074.0
CE3SOC FT8 -12dB from FF46
1295Hz
FF46 1408Z IO83<br>
DX de YC1JEL: 28180.0
RA4M FT4 -04dB
2426Hz
LO44 1441Z 28<br>
DX de GM0LIR: 24919.0
6Y7EI FT4 +06dB
1585Hz
8 1442Z IO85<br>
DX de G0LZX: 28074.0 YC1JEA
FT8 -07dB from OI33 671Hz <br>
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</span><span style='font-size:13.5pt'>would become:<br>
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</span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>DX de
WA2JQZ: 28180.0
DL2KBX FT4
DM78<>JO30
14 1415Z 5<br>
DX de CP6UA: 24915.0
CP6UA FT8 FH82jf ->
FH82jf
10 1414Z 10<br>
DX de WA2JQZ: 28180.0
MW7TTA FT4
DM78<>IO73
IO73 1411Z 5<br>
DX de IZ0FYO: 28180.0
9Z4Y FT4 JN61og ->
FK90
FK90 1410Z 15<br>
DX de WA2JQZ: 28180.0
OT7X FT4 DM78<>JO10
14 1408Z 5<br>
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</span><span style='font-size:13.5pt'>It is, of course, likely that these spots
that are left are auto generated too - but at least they provide some useful
information. If it is deemed necessary, I can get rid of these as well,
together with all the other FTx spots if necessary.<br>
<br>
Some people may think this is overkill, but the spot feed is filling up with
more and more useless spots, most of which are machine generated. Someone has
to take a stand. Now where did I put that wobbly pedestal I bought from the
charity shop the other year?<br>
<br>
You should be made aware, the place that this is currently done, means that
these spots are dropped at the PC11/PC61 protocol level - they won't be passed
onward to other nodes... You may not like that... It doesn't have to work this
way, it could be a user command. Please see the next paragraph.<br>
<br>
Someone was complaining that this list is too quiet. Maybe this will liven it
up.<br>
<br>
73 Dirk G1TLH<br>
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PS I just got a bit sick of the lack of "normal" v "FTx"
spots whilst testing the deduping code so I thought "I know, I've meaning
to do this for ages and it's only an extra 8 lines of code and a few
comments".<br>
<br>
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