<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">I agree Jose,<div> I recently went through the exercise with K4HNT-2 to authenticate partner Nodes. I had one partner that never replied to me, after several emails and a week of no response I isolated the node, after two weeks I dropped that partner. I successfully negotiated passwords to all my other partners within a week, and all but one of those are on a two way authentication.</div><div><br></div><div>If we as sysops will communicate with our partners and agree on what we each expect from each other, then we can hold each other accountable to that agreement. I may have some partners that are active and we agree to stay within n-2 (accepted standard in most software support) on releases I may have an agreement with another that they are n-3. But I think if we individually set some standards and held ourselves accountable, and begin isolating and dropping our partners that won’t hold up what the two of us agreed to int order to become partners, we should drop them and move on. This would have an effect of forcing the network to self police. Eventually it may mean the older releases isolate themselves into their own cluster network and they may survive at a small scale but most likely they will either upgrade and rejoin the main network or they will lose users because the spots will be limited.</div><div><br></div><div>Just my thoughts. I do not have any agreements with my node partners on releases etc, I will say all but one partner is current and the other is I think only one release back. </div><div><br></div><div>I just put in a lot of work to move my node into a 24x7 datacenter with the hopes of it becoming a nice stable node. It has RBN support and I don’t mind Hamclock users or any other connection that is operating nicely within the network. My personal operating would be so much different or non existent without the benefit of the clusters. I use them every day.</div><div>My opinion</div><div>Terry K4HNT</div><div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Mar 22, 2025, at 11:04 AM, CX2SA - Jose Ma Gonzalez via Dxspider-support <dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><meta charset="UTF-8"><div class="Section1" style="page: Section1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Hello All<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Every SysOp should seek relevant information from their partners.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Basically, do two things:<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">1) Exchange messages via email.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">2) Use logins and passwords between nodes.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Check radio activity, DX, contests, web sites, consult available global databases, verify that the callsign hasn't expired, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">In other words, check for convincing information about that callsign.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">It's not easy, but there must be many unmonitored zombie nodes.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">And if the available information isn't clear and concise, delete them.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Have a nice weekend.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">73, Jose<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(181, 196, 223) currentcolor currentcolor; border-image: none; padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><b><span lang="ES" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">De:</span></b><span lang="ES" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Dxspider-support [mailto:dxspider-support-bounces@tobit.co.uk]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>En nombre de<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>HB9DHG Fulvio via Dxspider-support<br><b>Enviado el:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>sábado, 22 de marzo de 2025 11:17<br><b>Para:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>The DXSpider Support list<br><b>CC:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>HB9DHG Fulvio<br><b>Asunto:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Dxspider-support] Again<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div><p class="gmail-" style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="">Thanks, Keith. That makes sense to me.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="gmail-" style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="">It is very sad to see these situations, and I hope we can soon have a clearer network.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="gmail-" style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="">Have a great weekend.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="gmail-" style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="">HB9DHG Fulvio<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">On Sat, Mar 22, 2025 at 3:11 PM Keith, G6NHU via Dxspider-support <<a href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></div></div><blockquote style="border-width: medium medium medium 1pt; border-style: none none none solid; border-color: currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(204, 204, 204); border-image: none; padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0cm;" type="cite"><div><div name="messageBodySection"><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">Yes, that was my actual spot, done like that to be distinctive so I could see if it was repeated. Whoever is doing this is taking genuine spots and repeating them but with a different frequency/callsign, etc. I’ve not got full debugging enabled so I can’t see the full details.</span><span style="font-size: 13.5pt;"><br><br></span><span style="font-size: 8.5pt; font-family: Menlo, serif; background: rgb(178, 178, 178);">dx 28081 J35X SFH tnx for new slot</span><span style="font-size: 8.5pt;"><br><br><br></span><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">73 Keith</span><o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div name="messageReplySection"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">On 22 Mar 2025 at 14:04 +0000, HB9DHG Fulvio via Dxspider-support <<a href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</a>>, wrote:<br><br><o:p></o:p></div><div><div><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="">Hello Keith,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="">Out of curiosity, did you manually insert the comment "SFH tnx for new slot"? I'm very confused and concerned about why all the comments are the same.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Best, HB9DHG Fulvio</span><span style=""><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">On Sat, Mar 22, 2025 at 2:31 PM Keith, G6NHU via Dxspider-support <<a href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></div></div><blockquote style="border-width: medium medium medium 1pt; border-style: none none none solid; border-color: currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(204, 204, 204); border-image: none; padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0cm;" type="cite"><div><div name="messageBodySection"><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">Genuine spots are being replicated on false frequencies.</span><br><br><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">I just worked J35X on 10m FT8 and spotted it, there were around 15 instant repeats of the same spot but on different frequencies. The bottom one is my actual spot.</span><span style="font-size: 13.5pt;"><br><br></span><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">73 Keith</span><span style="font-size: 13.5pt;"><br><br></span><span style="font-size: 8.5pt; font-family: Menlo, serif; background: rgb(178, 178, 178);"> 28339.1 J35X 22-Mar-2025 1327Z SFH tnx for new slot <GI7NKK></span><span style="font-size: 8.5pt;"><br></span><span style="font-size: 8.5pt; font-family: Menlo, serif; background: rgb(178, 178, 178);"> 1855.2 J35X 22-Mar-2025 1327Z SFH tnx for new slot <JR8AMF></span><span style="font-size: 8.5pt;"><br></span><span style="font-size: 8.5pt; font-family: Menlo, serif; background: rgb(178, 178, 178);"> 1865.9 J35X 22-Mar-2025 1327Z SFH tnx for new slot <ON4ZD></span><span style="font-size: 8.5pt;"><br></span><span style="font-size: 8.5pt; font-family: Menlo, serif; background: rgb(178, 178, 178);"> 21045.6 J35X 22-Mar-2025 1327Z SFH tnx for new slot <SP2RTA></span><span style="font-size: 8.5pt;"><br></span><span style="font-size: 8.5pt; font-family: Menlo, serif; background: rgb(178, 178, 178);"> 3658.7 J35X 22-Mar-2025 1327Z SFH tnx for new slot <IK0IHA></span><span style="font-size: 8.5pt;"><br></span><span style="font-size: 8.5pt; font-family: Menlo, serif; background: rgb(178, 178, 178);"> 7053.0 J35X 22-Mar-2025 1327Z SFH tnx for new slot <WA2ILB></span><span style="font-size: 8.5pt;"><br></span><span style="font-size: 8.5pt; font-family: Menlo, serif; background: rgb(178, 178, 178);"> 21111.4 J35X 22-Mar-2025 1327Z SFH tnx for new slot <IK0LYL></span><span style="font-size: 8.5pt;"><br></span><span style="font-size: 8.5pt; font-family: Menlo, serif; background: rgb(178, 178, 178);"> 1818.3 J35X 22-Mar-2025 1327Z SFH tnx for new slot <F4JYF></span><span style="font-size: 8.5pt;"><br></span><span style="font-size: 8.5pt; font-family: Menlo, serif; background: rgb(178, 178, 178);"> 7175.3 J35X 22-Mar-2025 1327Z SFH tnx for new slot <R6FS></span><span style="font-size: 8.5pt;"><br></span><span style="font-size: 8.5pt; font-family: Menlo, serif; background: rgb(178, 178, 178);"> 21044.0 J35X 22-Mar-2025 1327Z SFH tnx for new slot <F4ALP></span><span style="font-size: 8.5pt;"><br></span><span style="font-size: 8.5pt; font-family: Menlo, serif; background: rgb(178, 178, 178);"> 14173.6 J35X 22-Mar-2025 1327Z SFH tnx for new slot <IU5RCJ></span><span style="font-size: 8.5pt;"><br></span><span style="font-size: 8.5pt; font-family: Menlo, serif; background: rgb(178, 178, 178);"> 14308.7 J35X 22-Mar-2025 1327Z SFH tnx for new slot <PU2OXB></span><span style="font-size: 8.5pt;"><br></span><span style="font-size: 8.5pt; font-family: Menlo, serif; background: rgb(178, 178, 178);"> 14201.8 J35X 22-Mar-2025 1327Z SFH tnx for new slot <EA4M></span><span style="font-size: 8.5pt;"><br></span><span style="font-size: 8.5pt; font-family: Menlo, serif; background: rgb(178, 178, 178);"> 7274.3 J35X 22-Mar-2025 1327Z SFH tnx for new slot <G4PEN></span><span style="font-size: 8.5pt;"><br></span><span style="font-size: 8.5pt; font-family: Menlo, serif; background: rgb(178, 178, 178);"> 1877.2 J35X 22-Mar-2025 1327Z SFH tnx for new slot <WA1BXY></span><span style="font-size: 8.5pt;"><br></span><span style="font-size: 8.5pt; font-family: Menlo, serif; background: rgb(178, 178, 178);"> 28081.0 J35X 22-Mar-2025 1327Z SFH tnx for new slot <G6NHU></span><o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div name="messageReplySection"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">On 22 Mar 2025 at 12:30 +0000, Jan via Dxspider-support <<a href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</a>>, wrote:<br><br><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">Its is flooding again<br><br>73<br>Jan<br>PA4JJ<br><br><br></span><o:p></o:p></div><pre style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New";">-- <o:p></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New";">____________________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New";">my dxspider clusters running on a raspberry pi: <o:p></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New";">pa4jj-2 77.174.195.163 port 7300<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New";">pa4jj-3 77.174.195.163 port 7388<o:p></o:p></pre><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">_______________________________________________<br>Dxspider-support mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">Dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</a><br><a href="https://mailman.tobit.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/dxspider-support" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">https://mailman.tobit.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/dxspider-support</a><o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; 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