<div dir="ltr"><div>It depends if the router sends or not ICMP redirect messages</div><div><br></div><div>73</div><div><br></div><div>andrea</div><div><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">--></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Mar 23, 2025 at 3:38 PM Christopher Schlegel <<a href="mailto:sutehk.cs@gmail.com">sutehk.cs@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div><p dir="ltr">Rudy, </p>
<p dir="ltr">When trying to recreate Andrea's issue, I did just that. Problem is, most routers will recognize that the MAC addresses are both locally available and keep the traffic internal. Which is exactly what happened when I tried to connect to my WAN address.</p><p dir="ltr">I've had this problem before with self hosted services. I ended up using a cloud VM or a buddies network to test with. </p><p dir="ltr">Chris, WI3W</p><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Mar 23, 2025, 10:32 Rudy Bakalov via Dxspider-support <<a href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk" target="_blank">dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">How did you connect- to the 1/LAN or 2/WAN IP of the cluster? Try #2<div><br></div><div>Rudy N2WQ</div><div><br id="m_8437344045174138430m_-195053332030382191lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir="ltr"><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Sent using a tiny keyboard. Please excuse brevity, typos, or inappropriate autocorrect.</span></div><div><br></div></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Mar 23, 2025, at 10:19 AM, IZ2LSC via Dxspider-support <<a href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Thanks so much Chris.</div><div>yes this is the issue.</div><div>Let's wait for Dirk's thoughts.</div><div><br></div><div>Andrea</div><div><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature">--></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Mar 23, 2025 at 3:06 PM Christopher Schlegel <<a href="mailto:sutehk.cs@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">sutehk.cs@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><p dir="ltr">Andrea I see your use case and was able to replicate it.</p>
<p dir="ltr">As you asked, I connected to WI3W-2 from an internal local address, 192.168.3.172.</p>
<p dir="ltr">23Mar2025@13:47:45 (chan) -> D GB7VAX PC61^14000.0^T3ST^23-Mar-2025^1347Z^test^WI3W^WI3W-2^<b>192.168.3.172</b>^H30^~</p><p dir="ltr">I then tried to connect from an internal address via telnet to the external address of WI3W-2 with the same result. Expected, but worth a shot.</p><p dir="ltr">23Mar2025@13:57:32 (chan) -> D GB7VAX PC61^14000.0^T3ST^23-Mar-2025^1357Z^test2^WI3W^WI3W-2^192.168.3.172^H30^~</p><p dir="ltr">This would be a problem for me as well when contesting from home. </p><p dir="ltr">Chris, WI3W </p><p dir="ltr"><br></p><br><br><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Mar 23, 2025, 09:42 IZ2LSC <<a href="mailto:iz2lsc.andrea@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">iz2lsc.andrea@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Chris, </div><div>please do not consider izl2sc-55 that is a test note and I am not using it for the purpose of the issue I described here.</div><div>Can you kindly do this test:</div><div>Telnet to WI3W-2 using his private address from another PC, It is important that you telnet from another PC using the private address.</div><div>and send a test spot</div><div>Look what is the ipaddress in the PC61 that WI3W-2 send out to the rest of the network</div><div><br></div><div>This is how mine is received from another node</div><div>23Mar2025@13:35:43 (pc11) INPUT IZ2LSC-99: PC61^14000.0^IZ2LSC/P^23-Mar-2025^1335Z^test do not consider^IZ2LSC-7^IZ2LSC-99^<b>192.168.1.111</b>^H29^~ via: IZ2LSC-99 recurse: 0</div><div><br></div><div>and with the new release this spot will be discarded.</div><div><br></div><div>Andrea</div><div><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature">--></div></div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
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