<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Quote: “<span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><i>The retransmission of bad points on VE7CC-1, N2WQ-1, and AE5E was massive.</i>” This implies that CCC clusters contribute to the pain.</span><div><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></span></div><div><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">As a side bar, N2WQ-1 dropped over 300K spots older than 5 min.<br></span><div><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></span></div><div><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Rudy N2WQ</span></div><div><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"></span><div dir="ltr"><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Sent using a tiny keyboard. Please excuse brevity, typos, or inappropriate autocorrect.</span></div><div><br></div></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Mar 31, 2025, at 1:15 PM, Kin <ea3cv@cronux.net> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><span>Who said CC clusters are bad nodes?</span><br><span>Only verifiable data and results are shown.</span><br><span>As for user usage, this is subjective, especially when using third-party software.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Kin EA3CV</span><br><span></span><br><span>-----Mensaje original-----</span><br><span>De: Rudy Bakalov <r_bakalov@yahoo.com> </span><br><span>Enviado el: lunes, 31 de marzo de 2025 19:07</span><br><span>Para: The DXSpider Support list <dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk></span><br><span>CC: Kin <ea3cv@cronux.net>; The DXSpider Support list <dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk></span><br><span>Asunto: Re: [Dxspider-support] Weekend data</span><br><span></span><br><span>Since my cluster is one of the bad guys on the list, I am considering a hybrid approach:</span><br><span></span><br><span>1/ Running a spider to filter out bad backbone traffic. This node will only connect to other nodes and won’t be advertised to end users. Let’s call it N2WQ-73 2/ Running the existing N2WQ-1 node exclusively for end users as I find CCC far more end user friendly. This node will be connected only to N2WQ-73 and no other nodes.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Thoughts?</span><br><span></span><br><span>Rudy N2WQ</span><br><span></span><br><span>Sent using a tiny keyboard. Please excuse brevity, typos, or inappropriate autocorrect.</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Mar 31, 2025, at 12:37 PM, Kin via Dxspider-support <dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk> wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Hi,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>In case anyone is interested.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>This is the data for the weekend. It includes build changes made over </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>the last two days (CQ WPX SSB 2025).</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>The test setup was:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Peers Nodes: 7</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Total Users: 1</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>--------------------------------- Spots Vars</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>-----------------------------------</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> Slot Time (s): $Spot::timegranularity = 60</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> Slot QRG (kHz): $Spot::qrggranularity = 1</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> Dupe Page (s): $Spot::dupage = 300</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> Length text in the deduping: $Spot::duplth = 15</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> Max length call for dupes: $Spot::maxcalllth = 12</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> Granularity input time Spot (s): $Spot::spotage = 125</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> Bad spots: $DXProt::senderverify = 1</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> Enable/disable 'node' checking: $Spot::do_node_check = 0</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> Enable/disable 'call' checking: $Spot::do_call_check = 1</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> Enable/disable 'by' checking: $Spot::do_by_check = 1</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> Enable/disable 'ipaddr' checking: $Spot::do_ipaddr_check = 1</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Check 'call' is not spotted too often: $Spot::dupecall = 10</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Threshold 'call' to become a duplicate: $Spot::dupecallthreshold = 35</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Check 'node' is not spotted too often: $Spot::nodetime = 10</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Threshold 'node' to become a duplicate: $Spot::nodetimethreshold = 50</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>----------------------------------------------------------------------</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>------</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>----</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Results:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>String Total</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>--------------- -------</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>DXDupe::add 376926</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>DXDupe::del 373686</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>DXDupe::clean 32100</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Bad Spot 1113</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Bad Node 16496</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Badwords 98</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Normalised call 171</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>RFC1918-dropped 5214</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>PC11 in 78519</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>PC11 out 7019</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>PC61 in 449619</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>PC61 out 135223</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>PC92 A in 423802</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>PC92 A out 497918</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>PC92 D in 324649</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>PC92 D out 377591</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>PC92 C in 68236</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>PC92 C out 68343</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>------------------------</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Observations:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>There were delays of up to 9 minutes on some nodes.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Some nodes failed. It took me 15 minutes to reconnect to VE7CC-1 (CC </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Cluster).</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>The retransmission of bad points on VE7CC-1, N2WQ-1, and AE5E was massive.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On EA3CV-2, EA3CV-3, and WA9PIE-2, bad point discarding was very </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>effective, as the avalanche of bad points was not detected.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I selected the CCCluster and DXSpider nodes, which I knew were on the </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>latest version.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I am attaching a plain text file for those who cannot see the data </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>correctly.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Conclusions are at the discretion of the reader.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Kin EA3CV</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><results.txt></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Dxspider-support mailing list</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>https://mailman.tobit.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/dxspider-support</span><br></blockquote><span></span><br><span></span><br></div></blockquote></div></div></body></html>