<div dir="auto"><div><p dir="ltr">Come on guys play nice! If I, an American, can follow along then tech has dome a fine job helping to remove language barriers. </p><p dir="ltr">Rick, we understand your frustration. You are not the only sysop who is having trouble. Yes, there is lots to follow. However, choosing to run a public service (even voluntarily) is like any other service digital or physical. If you want to stay present and useful it takes work, time, and dedication to provide for the users. No matter what software you use. Perhaps inviting a fellow ham to help administer the node would help relieve some of the stress and help educate/mentor another ham.</p><p dir="ltr">Recent events have caused necessary changes in the way the cluster is operating. Almost all of the events we have experienced have been due to a lack of evolution with the networks and risks involved around the cluster. I am speaking from a cyber security point of view. To be realistic, we are lucky this is all we have seen. It could be so much worse should the cluster become the target of malicious actors. Dirk is doing everything he can to keep everyone involved, but there will come a time when obsolete nodes will have to be purged. Please, understand these changes are not made to frustrate the sysops but to provide the best service we can to the users (our friends and comrades).</p><p dir="ltr">Please, think about joining the Discord server (link is on the wiki or I can send it to you). Perhaps someone can work one on one with you to help.</p><p dir="ltr">73, Chris WI3W</p><br><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Apr 6, 2025, 11:25 Mikel EA2CW via Dxspider-support <<a href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk">dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u><div><div dir="auto" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><div id="m_-9017279193657093123message" dir="auto"><div><font size="2">Dear Jan, </font></div><div><font size="2"><br></font></div><div><font size="2">As far as this is international, and not said to be compulsory the use of the language of some countries only, I don't see any problem, as you could also use any of the translator apps from spanish to english, can't you?</font></div><div><font size="2">73, Mikel<br id="m_-9017279193657093123br3"></font><br id="m_-9017279193657093123br3"><br id="m_-9017279193657093123br3"></div></div><div id="m_-9017279193657093123signature" dir="auto"></div><div id="m_-9017279193657093123content" dir="auto"><br><div style="border-top-width:1px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(204,204,204);height:0px;margin-top:10px;margin-bottom:10px;line-height:0px"></div><br> ---- El dom., 06 abr. 2025 17:10:56 +0200 <b> <a href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</a> escribió </b> ----<br><br><blockquote style="border:0px;padding:0px;margin:0px">
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<font face="Arial">Come on guys<br>
This is an international reflector. <br>
Iif you want to read these messages in Spanish I suggest to use
google translate...<br>
Or send a direct mail to the user you want to ask something in
your own language.<br>
<br>
73<br>
Jan<br>
PA4JJ<br>
</font><br>
<div>Op 6-4-2025 om 17:07 schreef Ricardo
Suarez via Dxspider-support:<br>
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<p>Hola, Mikel<br>
</p>
<p>Yo esperaba una respuesta tipo "deberias escribir tal cosa",
pero tu respuesta da fe de lo que decia, tenemos mas "policias
de la red" que se quieren hacer ver que gente que realmente
quieran ayudar a los otros a mantener el sistema funcionando. </p>
<p>No es bueno tener que rogar que los comandos necesarios al buen
funcionamiento sean descriptos detalladamente.<br>
</p>
<p>Probablemente yo prefiera pasar a otro software server de
Cluster a apagarlo, pero lo haré cuando me apetezca.</p>
<p>(Sono spiacente che ti sia caduto male che scriva in Spagnolo,
perdo un sacco di tempo in fare che il mio stato d'animo si
capisca in una lingua che non é la mia, ma posso anche farlo in
italiano, che mi risulta molto piú facile e, sicuramente, non
dovrai andare su Google)</p>
<p>Rick LU9DA <br>
</p>
<div>El 6/4/2025 a las 14:27, Ea2cw via
Dxspider-support escribió:<br>
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<div dir="auto">Completamente de acuerdo contigo, Rick. </div>
<div dir="auto">Si no te ves capaz de mantener tu nodo
actualizado, lo mejor es que lo apagues y dejes el asunto
en manos de los que no tenemos nada mejor que hacer.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Te contesto en castellano para que te sea
mas facil entenderlo. (Bestela euskeraz egin dezaket eta
gero gogglen bidez itzuli dezakezu )</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Ondo izan,</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">73 Mikel</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto" id="m_-9017279193657093123x_1999748688tmjah_g_1299">Obtén <a href="https://bluemail.me/download/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">BlueMail para móvil</a></div>
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<div dir="auto">Ricardo Suarez via
Dxspider-support wrote:</div>
<br>
<br>
<div>
<blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 0.8ex;border-left:1px rgb(204,204,204) solid;padding-left:1ex">
<p>Bueno, esto es -realmente- muy molesto</p>
<p>¿cual seria el comando correcto para poner en el script
startup para cargar la ip de mi cluster (LU9DA-6), dado
que tiene ip externa fija?</p>
<p>El cluster, de un tiempo a esta parte, se transformo de
un servicio a los colegas locales en algo molesto y
consumidor de tiempo.</p>
<p>Ya se esta haciendo imposible seguir la cantidad
absurda de mails diarios con quejas de "esto esta mal
configurado" o "aquello genera problemas" Va a terminar
siendo mejor, para la salud mental de los que no vivimos
del cluster, apagarlo y que se encarguen los que tienen
tiempo para dedicarse a eso 24/7 los 365 dias del año.</p>
<p>O, para resolver de una vez por todas, alguien va a
tener que hacer de manera tal que al momento de la
instalacion o el upgrade a un build nuevo, pida los
datos que necesita en vez de obligar a estar leyendo
cientos de mails que, en resumidas cuentas, en vez de
aclarar o poner -explicitamente- lo que es necesario
escribir en la terminal cada vez, suman a los que nos
tenemos que encargar en la oscuridad, haciendonos sentir
completamente inutiles.</p>
<p>Es mi punto de vista, escrito en castellano, porque
creo que asi puedo expresar realmente lo que siento esta
mañana, cada cual puede traducirlo usando google.</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>Rick LU9DA</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>ps. <span lang="en"><span><span>Sorry, written in
Spanish because I'm not in the mood to think in
English today.</span></span> <span><span>You can translate it
with Google.</span></span></span></p>
<p><span lang="en"><span><span><br>
</span></span></span> </p>
<div>El 6/4/2025 a las 07:57, Kin
via Dxspider-support escribió:<br>
</div>
<blockquote>
<pre>Hi all,
The following nodes send their public IP to the network as "localhost."
They are using builds 611 and 612, so they are updated, but not their IP.
BG2RVL-9
IK6IHL-6
IK6XMI-6
IK7NXU-6
IZ3MEZ-15
IZ7AUH-6
LU9DA-6
VA3BAL-1
VK5GR-2
Please use the set/external_ip command and include it in the crontab as Dirk
indicated, or you can also use the set/update_ip command I created for the
WAN and LAN IPs.
This procedure works for both static and dynamic IPs.
Having a poorly defined IP can result in the loss of spots.
Kin EA3CV
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<p>Bueno, esto es -realmente- muy molesto</p>
<p>¿cual seria el comando correcto para poner en el script
startup para cargar la ip de mi cluster (LU9DA-6), dado
que tiene ip externa fija?</p>
<p>El cluster, de un tiempo a esta parte, se transformo de
un servicio a los colegas locales en algo molesto y
consumidor de tiempo.</p>
<p>Ya se esta haciendo imposible seguir la cantidad
absurda de mails diarios con quejas de "esto esta mal
configurado" o "aquello genera problemas" Va a terminar
siendo mejor, para la salud mental de los que no vivimos
del cluster, apagarlo y que se encarguen los que tienen
tiempo para dedicarse a eso 24/7 los 365 dias del año.</p>
<p>O, para resolver de una vez por todas, alguien va a
tener que hacer de manera tal que al momento de la
instalacion o el upgrade a un build nuevo, pida los
datos que necesita en vez de obligar a estar leyendo
cientos de mails que, en resumidas cuentas, en vez de
aclarar o poner -explicitamente- lo que es necesario
escribir en la terminal cada vez, suman a los que nos
tenemos que encargar en la oscuridad, haciendonos sentir
completamente inutiles.</p>
<p>Es mi punto de vista, escrito en castellano, porque
creo que asi puedo expresar realmente lo que siento esta
mañana, cada cual puede traducirlo usando google.</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>Rick LU9DA</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>ps. <span lang="en"><span><span>Sorry, written in
Spanish because I'm not in the mood to think in
English today.</span></span> <span><span>You can translate it
with Google.</span></span></span></p>
<p><span lang="en"><span><span><br>
</span></span></span> </p>
<div>El 6/4/2025 a las 07:57, Kin
via Dxspider-support escribió:<br>
</div>
<blockquote>
<pre>Hi all,
The following nodes send their public IP to the network as "localhost."
They are using builds 611 and 612, so they are updated, but not their IP.
BG2RVL-9
IK6IHL-6
IK6XMI-6
IK7NXU-6
IZ3MEZ-15
IZ7AUH-6
LU9DA-6
VA3BAL-1
VK5GR-2
Please use the set/external_ip command and include it in the crontab as Dirk
indicated, or you can also use the set/update_ip command I created for the
WAN and LAN IPs.
This procedure works for both static and dynamic IPs.
Having a poorly defined IP can result in the loss of spots.
Kin EA3CV
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my dxspider clusters running on a raspberry pi:
pa4jj-2 77.174.195.163 port 7300
pa4jj-3 77.174.195.163 port 7388</pre>
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