<div dir="ltr"><div>I would not change the sh/dx behaviour.</div><div>It's not just about users, but also other programs that are using it with the syntax 'sh/dx <callsign>' </div><div><br></div><div>andrea</div><div><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">--></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, May 8, 2025 at 4:33 PM Dirk Koopman via Dxspider-support <<a href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk">dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
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<div>OK, let's see if I can straighten this
out.<br>
<br>
1. sh/dx uses, <i>but is not</i>, Filter.pm<br>
2. accept or reject/<system> is pure Filter.pm. Commands
expect [<i>callsign</i>] [<i>slot no</i>] <keyword>
<value> pairs mixed with and logical expressions like
brackets <i>and</i> <i>or </i>etc. <i>Callsign</i> and <i>slot
no</i> are optional. Callsign includes the various options for
*default names (e.g. node_default, in_user_default etc).<br>
<br>
sh/dx has a short cut so that, should the user do a 'sh/dx
<callsign>', it does not throw an error (as it would using
acc/spot) because the user has not written 'sh/dx <u><i>call</i>
</u><callsign>'. <b><u>This is not a bug. </u></b>It is a
convenience for users that expect to be able to do 'sh/dx
<callsign>' and get some answers rather than a syntax error.<br>
<br>
I could simply take that convenience away and then the interfaces
will be (more nearly) the same. It is always an issue to get that
"right" (again) whenever I do some major surgery on sh/dx,
especially when I spend several days trying to improve the extra
parsing to allow the users to do more things with it. Should I do
that, I sure I shall be able leave you to interface with the
users...<br>
<br>
Sheesh<br>
<br>
Dirk G1TLH<br>
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On 08/05/2025 11:33, Kin via Dxspider-support wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Until</span></span><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
<span>now</span>, I <span>understood</span>
<span>that</span> <span>they</span>
<span>were</span> <span>trying</span>
<span>to</span> <span>standardize</span>
<span>the</span> use <span>of</span>
<span>filters</span> in ACC <span>or</span> REJ and SH/DX.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">If</span></span><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
<span>the</span> <span>above</span>
<span>is</span> <span>correct</span>,
<span>what</span> I <span>showed</span>
<span>indicates</span> <span>an</span>
error. <span>But</span> <span>if</span> <span>it</span> <span>doesn't</span> <span>follow</span>
<span>the</span> <span>same</span>
<span>method</span>, <span>well</span>...<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Kin
EA3CV<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">De:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
Dxspider-support
<a href="mailto:dxspider-support-bounces@tobit.co.uk" target="_blank"><dxspider-support-bounces@tobit.co.uk></a> <b>En
nombre de </b>Mikel EA2CW via Dxspider-support<br>
<b>Enviado el:</b> jueves, 8 de mayo de 2025 11:46<br>
<b>Para:</b> The DXSpider Support list
<a href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk" target="_blank"><dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk></a><br>
<b>CC:</b> Mikel EA2CW <a href="mailto:ea2cw@gautxori.com" target="_blank"><ea2cw@gautxori.com></a><br>
<b>Asunto:</b> Re: [Dxspider-support] Possible filter
failure build 633<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>I am sorry,
you're right, Andrea. I've already read it, but thought
-erroneously- that you must put any rule number after the
call to be changed (as in the given example) to be valid.<br>
I did it to node_default and in_node_default but always
followed by #.<br>
Of course you can always use the "spoof" system, but that
was not the point.<br>
73, Mikel<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>El 8 de mayo
de 2025 5:17:25 UTC, IZ2LSC via Dxspider-support
<a href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk" target="_blank"><dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk></a> escribió:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p>Please read the documentation<u></u><u></u></p>
<p><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p>11.99 reject/spots <call> [input] [0-9]
<pattern> (8)<br>
reject/spots <call> [input] [0-9] <pattern>
Spot filter sysop version<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>This version allows a sysop to set a filter for a
callsign as well as thedefault for nodes and users eg:-<u></u><u></u></p>
<p> reject/spot db0sue-7 1 by_zone 14,15,16 reject/spot
node_default all set/hops node_default 10<br>
reject/spot user_default by G,M,2<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>/// sent
from my mobile device \\\<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Il gio 8 mag
2025, 02:05 Mikel EA2CW via Dxspider-support <<a href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk" target="_blank">dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</a>>
ha scritto:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>The way to
change a filter to another user as sysop should be
(as in the <br>
example)<br>
<br>
spoof zs8w rej/spot ...etc.<br>
<br>
Not "rej/spot zs8w". That should be the same than
"rej/spot call zs8w"<br>
<br>
73, Mikel<br>
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El 7/5/25 a las 23:11, IZ2LSC via Dxspider-support
escribió:<br>
> I think this is OK.<br>
> As sysop you can set a filter for another user,
and with command rej/ <br>
> spot zs8w you are setting a filter for user
zs8w.<br>
> <br>
> Andrea<br>
> <br>
> --><br>
-- <br>
73 de Mikel Berrocal EA2CW-AE2CW<br>
Bilbao, Basque Country<br>
<a href="mailto:ea2cw@gautxori.com" target="_blank">ea2cw@gautxori.com</a><br>
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