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<div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size: medium">I do wonder why beacons get spotted, especially as they’re always there!</span><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size: medium">73 Keith.</span><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span></div>
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<div name="messageReplySection">On 20 May 2025 at 13:03 +0100, Simon Ravnič via Dxspider-support <dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk>, wrote:<br />
<blockquote type="cite" style="border-left-color: grey; border-left-width: thin; border-left-style: solid; margin: 5px 5px;padding-left: 10px;">I understand. This is far more important than the beacons. Will educate my user.
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<div dir="ltr">If you remove the delay, then that MAJOR vector of flood attacks opens up again. I cannot stress enough how effective this part of the filtering process is. </div>
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<div dir="ltr">So, what perhaps we should consider is whether to change the default delay or educate the user about how the filter works and encourage him to modify his spotting behaviour. </div>
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<div dir="ltr">There HAS to be a delay. </div>
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<div dir="ltr">Perhaps someone could do some analysis after the contest at the end of the month to determine what an optimum value might be? I am not going to be near a suitable computer. </div>
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<div dir="ltr">It is tunable from the console. </div>
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<div dir="ltr">I understand the concern about corrections but is that more important than flood protection?</div>
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<blockquote type="cite">On 19 May 2025, at 09:50, g4piq via Dxspider-support <dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk> wrote:<br />
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<div dir="auto">I have seen the same thing. Changing frequency does not seem to defeat the dupe spot timer - which I think it should. I know there was a parameter for a minimum frequency shift to count as a new spot which I think got moved down (quite correctly) from 25 kHz to 1 kHz.</div>
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<div dir="auto">This also impacts the ability of a user ti correct a spot accidently sent on the wrong frequency before the 5 min timer expires.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Andy, G4PIQ </div>
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<div>From: Simon Ravnič via Dxspider-support <dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk></div>
<div>Date: 19/05/2025 09:22 (GMT+00:00)</div>
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<div>Cc: Simon Ravnič <s53zo@t-2.net></div>
<div>Subject: [Dxspider-support] Dedup error?</div>
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Hello,
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<div>my user, S51ZO is often spotting beacons and complained to me that he gets wrong duplicate warnings.</div>
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<div>This is what I found out:</div>
<div><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px;">2025-05-10 16:03:08 GMT</span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px;"> </span> <span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px;">1296090 S55ZMS/B</span> <span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px;"> </span> <span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px;">-> FORWARD</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures">So it appears that </span><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">any two spots with the same </span><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">callsign get compared, regardless of frequency. How long is deduping timer? </span></div>
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<div><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Is this a bug or a feature? </span></div>
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