[Dxspider-support] Who command and IP addresses.

[richard]

I agree with Dirk  also

getting someones ipaddress is pretty easy, especially if the're a ham.
how many have e-mail addesses like n1abc at fred.com ?
and if its a dial up dynamic address probally short lived.
those with cable modems tend to use dynamic hosts , like dyndns or
dns2go .
all of which are very easy to get to the host machine with half an hour
with a search engine, once you have the hostname the adddress is very
simple.
If the guy is really paranoid a decent OS, like linux and a good
firewall
if he's using winblows well , dos'nt say some where on the box caviat
emptor,
 sorry latin spelling was never too good.

that 's my bit for what its worth

73 Richard
On Mon, 2002-02-04 at 23:52, Frank Hurlbut wrote:
> I am in complete agreement with you Dirk.
> Frank KL7FH
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dirk Koopman" <djk at tobit.co.uk>
> To: <dxspider-support at dxcluster.org>
> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 1:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [Dxspider-support] Who command and IP addresses.
> 
> 
> > On Mon, 2002-02-04 at 20:53, Fred Allstadt wrote:
> > > Hello Dirk, and the group --
> > >
> > > Had a user today send me an email.  He expressed some concern that his
> IP
> > > address is displayed when issuing the WHO command.  Since the buzz in
> the
> > > computer world lately has been security, he felt that this was
> > > unnecessary.  Now, those of us on this list realize that we give our IP
> > > address freely to the world every time we connect to the Internet, but
> this
> > > seems like an easy thing to mask.
> > >
> > > Would it be possible to add this to the 'To Do' list?  Basically, not to
> > > display the user IP to users of the (0) level?  It still is good info
> for
> > > sysop level users to have easily available (without having to look
> through
> > > the logs).  Displaying the node IP at all levels I image would be OK.
> > >
> >
> > This is, at the moment, a gut reaction (and therefore, not definitive).
> >
> > No.
> >
> > Just right now, I can't quite see how it is a security risk, I would
> > like some more information on that before putting my size 11 down more
> > fully (one way or another).
> >
> > I am wary of "secretly" recording IP addresses. For starters it may be
> > against UK law. Secondly, I want EVERYBODY to know that if you abuse the
> > system; if I am sufficiently motivated; I can (and as a group of people
> > are finding out) *will* track you down and point policemen in your
> > direction. In other words it is a (small) deterrent. There is the whole
> > business of Ham Radio's "transparency" (no codes and ciphers, using real
> > callsigns on the cluster etc etc. All the pressure on me right now is to
> > provide more and better methods to identify someone as being *really*
> > whom they sign on as. I believe, empirically, that it is not an accident
> > that the level of nasty abuse has dropped to virtually nothing since it
> > has become obvious that DXSpider records as much an audit trail as it
> > reasonably can.
> >
> > So, on balance, right now, I am minded to leave it as it is *and* if
> > necessary lose some users (and maybe nodes) over it (but I am open to
> > persuasion). There are no privacy issues here *at* *all*, because there
> > is literally *nothing* on any cluster, that I connect to, that is
> > private. It may be Personal, but it ain't Private.
> >
> > Dirk G1TLH
> >
> > --
> > Please Note: Some Quantum Physics Theories Suggest That When the
> > Consumer Is Not Directly Observing This Product, It May Cease to
> > Exist or Will Exist Only in a Vague and Undetermined State.
> >
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