[Dxspider-support] CLX - Spider connect

Michael Walker mike at portcredit.net
Thu Sep 1 22:35:17 BST 2005


Hi Ian

That was it.  CLX was actually called VA3MW and Spider thought that it was 
call VA3MW-7.

I've added the -7 SSID to clx_par and that fixed it.

Thanks to everyone for their help.  I know have better filters so that I an 
ensure that I just deal with Zone 2 and 4 spots.  That makes me open for 
connections.

Mike VA3MW

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ian Morrison" <ianm at lks.net>
To: "Michael Walker" <mike at portcredit.net>; "The DXSpider Support list" < 
 >
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 5:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Dxspider-support] CLX - Spider connect


> Hi Mike,
> This is the same problem we has about a year ago trying to connect 
> ve3bip-7 to va3mw-7.  We have been running va3pec-5 ( rf only) connected 
> to ve3bip-7 via rf quite successfully now for some time.
> Alas tho, the computer at ve3bip-7 just died so we are orphaned for 
> awhile. DXSpider is really solid and is virtually problem free, thanks to 
> Dirk's code.
>
> Welcome to the "spider" world.
> de ve3iem
> Ian
>
>
> Michael Walker wrote:
>
>> Dirk
>>
>> That might be it.  The actual node call of VA3MW-7 as configured is VA3MW 
>> (no ssid).
>>
>> However, in order to make Spider connect to a different cluster with the 
>> same call, I had to apply an SSID, hence the -7.  CLX doesn't normally 
>> care.
>>
>> Unfortunately, Spider can't connect to VA3MW as he feels he is already 
>> connected.
>>
>> Looks like the option is to actually make VA3MW (clx) VA3MW-7
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dirk Koopman" <djk at tobit.co.uk>
>> To: "Michael Walker" <mike at portcredit.net>; "The DXSpider Support list" 
>> <dxspider-support at dxcluster.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 8:01 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Dxspider-support] CLX - Spider connect
>>
>>
>>> On Thu, 2005-09-01 at 07:35 -0400, Michael Walker wrote:
>>>
>>>> That is pretty much what I have.  Do I need to worry about case?
>>>>
>>>> On another note, the spider node was receiving spots just fine, and 
>>>> then it
>>>> stopped.  I can see the spots arriving on the console view, but they 
>>>> are not
>>>> on the Spider cluster. I haven't even started to play with filters yet.
>>>>
>>>> Here is the init log (va3mw-7 is clx, va3mw-6 is DX Spider).  At the 
>>>> bottom,
>>>> can you tell me if the PC51 is outbound from Spider or inbound from 
>>>> CLX?
>>>>
>>>> DXChannel VA3MW-7 created (3)
>>>> <- O VA3MW-7 telnet
>>>> -> B VA3MW-7 0
>>>> -> E VA3MW-7 0
>>>> VA3MW-7 channel func  state 0 -> init
>>>> <- I VA3MW-7 Hello va3mw-6, you were validated - now connecting to clx.
>>>> <- I VA3MW-7 *** connected to clx
>>>> <- I VA3MW-7 PC18^ ^5447^
>>>> VA3MW-7 channel func  state init -> init
>>>> -> D VA3MW-7 PC19^1^VA3MW-6^0^5451^H24^
>>>> -> D VA3MW-7 PC16^VA3MW-6^VA3MW - 1^H24^
>>>> -> D VA3MW-7 PC20^
>>>> <- I VA3MW-7 Login at 1113Z: va3mw-6
>>>> <- I VA3MW-7 PC19^0^VA3MW^0^5447^H10^
>>>
>>>
>>> This is the clue. Although quite why clx is sending that spurious Login
>>> line I don't know. It has obviously connected to the cluster engine
>>> because you have received the PC18.
>>>
>>>> <- I VA3MW-7 PC22^
>>>> VA3MW-7 channel func  state init -> normal
>>>> -> D VA3MW-7 PC51^VA3MW-7^VA3MW-6^1^
>>>
>>>
>>> You must be whom you say you are and SSID's matter. So if clx is VA3MW
>>> (which is is what the PC19 says it thinks it is) then that has to be the
>>> call that you set/clx and also CONNect to. A dim memory seems to be
>>> saying that clx doesn't handle SSIDs for nodes, but that may be wrong.
>>>
>>> I cannot over emphasise the fact that, in order to maintain connections,
>>> the callsigns used in protocol must match the callsigns that both you
>>> think you are and also are connected to.
>>>
>>> The problem is that not sending out a PC19 with the correct callsign
>>> cannot be detected as an error because it isn't (completely) one. What
>>> you are running (should you switch the keep-alive pinging off) is,
>>> effectively, "restricted" protocol.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps
>>>
>>> Dirk
>>> -- 
>>> Dirk Koopman <djk at tobit.co.uk>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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