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I have 2 Chinese nodes connecting to me with AK1A

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Jan

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lee Sawkins" <ve7cc at shaw.ca>
To: <iain.philipps at sms.xerox.com>; "The DXSpider Support list" 
<dxspider-support at dxcluster.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Dxspider-support] Recent posts


> In North America my best guess is that less than 1% of users are using
> radio connections.
>
> The AK1A format is the only format that all clusters and clients
> understand.  That is why it is still used for data exchange.  The are
> some problems with a few of the AK1A PCxx messages that are used.  Some
> don't have hops and some don't have originating nodes.  There are some
> other problems as well.  These all could be fixed, if everyone could
> agree on what to do.  That alone would be a big improvement for
> security.  I also would like to see spotters IP addresses sent with
> their spots.  That way it would be easy to detect abuse of the type we
> have seen in the past few days.  Many different bogus originating calls,
> but all from a couple of IP addresses.  Automatic detection of the same
> IPs for different users could be used to drop their spots.  Limiting dx
> spots to a couple per minute per IP would also help.
>
> Many users have a client program between them and the clusters.  This
> client can have all the bells and whistles the author wants.  There are
> a couple of cluster to client protocols in use.  For Spider and CC
> Clusters there are CC11 and for AR Cluster there is the similar AR17
> protocol.  This makes it much easier for client programs to be
> developed.
>
> The beauty of the AK1A protocol or other text based client protocols is
> that they have very little overhead compared to html etc.  If all
> clusters started serving up web pages in the DX Summit format, then the
> amount of data their Internet connection handles would increase many
> times.
>
> Lee
>
> Iain Philipps wrote:
>>
>> [G0RDI decloaks for his once-a-year posting]
>>
>> Ian,
>>
>> The answer is "What's your delivery infrastructure" ?
>>
>> If you believe that the vast majority are internet users (and they
>> probably are, IMHO) then put all the bells and whistles in you like.
>>
>> On the other hand, what do you do for the "real" users - those still
>> using 1200bps radio circuits to connect? OK - I guess you can build in
>> a switch "low speed on interface 'x'"
>>
>> Just a point to ponder :-)
>>
>>
>> 73 de G0RDI
>>
>>
>>      ----- Original Message -----
>>      From: Ian Maude
>>      To: The DXSpider Support list
>>      Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 12:48 PM
>>      Subject: [Dxspider-support] Recent posts
>>
>>      Hi all,
>>      I have been watching recent posts with interest.  I feel we
>>      are still being limited by having to keep supporting AK1A.
>>       I wonder if it about time that Dirk and Lee (and others)
>>      started to think more about moving the cluster network
>>      forward and less about always having to provide backward
>>      compatibility?  It really is about time the AK1A nodes were
>>      retired IMHO, after all, the price of the new software is
>>      right :)  Todays cluster network needs to be more dynamic
>>      and control is becoming more and more important.  The
>>      majority of users are using modern logging clients that
>>      would benefit from having an XML interface for example.
>>
>>      I may be talking complete rubbish here and it would not be
>>      the first time ;)  I really do think  we need to look at the
>>      future though.  How would cluster software look if AK1A was
>>      not a factor?
>>
>>      73 Ian
>>
>>      --
>>      Ian J Maude, G0VGS
>>      SysOp GB7MBC & HB9DRV-9 DX Clusters
>>      Member RSGB, GQRP 9838, FISTS 14077 | K3 #455
>>      http://www.amateurradiotraining.org
>
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