[Dxspider-support] Spider Nodes used by ROS to auto-spot

Kjell Jarl K-Jarl at algonet.se
Fri Jul 9 15:10:47 BST 2010


Awaiting a better explanation from the author, I have temporally set the 
badword ROS.
Kjell

VK3AMA wrote:
> The user can't turn off this auto-spot feature. No where in the 
> documentation (FAQ or User Guide) is the Cluster even mentioned.
> 
> Reviewing the limited options within the program, I could find no option 
> to turn this on or off. It appears to be enabled by default.
> 
> It looks to me that the ROS author is trying to make the spots appear to 
> be human generated by using a different comment string (some give a db 
> report, others tnx, 73, etc) and using different Cluster Nodes.
> 
> It is just spamming the Network and gives the non-ROS user viewing the 
> Cluster, the impression that it is a popular and widespread mode.
> 
> de Laurie, VK3AMA
> 
> 
> On 9/07/2010 8:07 PM, Brendan Minish wrote:
>> Can the user disable this auto-spot feature and is it enabled by
>> default ?
>>
>> On Fri, 2010-07-09 at 19:55 +1000, VK3AMA wrote:
>>   
>>> This auto-spot (when logging a qso) behaviour was happening today when
>>> I tested ver 4.5.7 & latest ver 4.5.9
>>>
>>> The previous flooding of the cluster (few weeks ago) occurred when the
>>> ROS software auto-spotted everything it decoded and used the one
>>> Cluster Node. That is what the deleted thread on the ROS site was
>>> about.
>>> de Laurie, VK3AMA
>>>
>>> On 9/07/2010 7:22 PM, Brendan Minish wrote: 
>>>     
>>>> Can anyone confirm if the latest version of ROS still auto-spots ?
>>>>
>>>> the author of ROS deleted the thread about abusive cluster behaviour,
>>>> when I asked about this I was told 'The thread has been deleted because
>>>> the problem is fixed' 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 2010-07-09 at 10:45 +0200, SM6U, Rickard wrote:
>>>>   
>>>>       
>>>>> Hi, thanks for the information. I've been noticing lots of rapid connect and disconnects lately, wich I found strange since our cluster is just a shell for the webcluster. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it just me, or are most of the "targeted" clusters thoose who discussed the ROS-problem last time?
>>>>>
>>>>> Will badword ROS asap and theb set up for registered users only when I return home from the SK9HQ event. Hope to work you during the weekend!
>>>>>
>>>>> /SM6U, Rick
>>>>>  sector7.nu / sm6.se / sk6aw.net
>>>>>
>>>>> 9 jul 2010 kl. 04:56 skrev VK3AMA <vk3ama at gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>     
>>>>>         
>>>>>> While researching ROS cluster spots arriving at HamSpots.net via the Cluster, I have discovered how the ROS software is auto-spotting to a list of nodes that may be of concern to the Node Sysops.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The following Spider Node addresses are hard-coded in the software.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> dxc.us6iq.com
>>>>>> dxc.ham.hr
>>>>>> 9a0dxc.hamradio.hr
>>>>>> remo3.renet.ru
>>>>>> cluster.sk4bw.net
>>>>>> ax25.org
>>>>>> sk3w.se
>>>>>> sector7.nu
>>>>>> sm7gvf.dyndns.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ROS software establishes a connection at startup using your callsign and varies which node it connects to, not always the same node.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When a qso is logged  a spot is auto generated (there is no option in ROS to turn this off that I could find) and the text of the spot is changed based on another hard-coded list of messages. This is obviously done to give the impression that the spot is sent from a human (unlike the past flooding of the network, same text and same node). No where in the ROS FAQ or User Guide is this behaviour documented.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I ran ROS in RX mode today, after a callsign was decoded, I hit the log button and it sent a spot to the cluster without permission with my name and call thanking the other station for the QSO.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A quick review of recent ROS spots shows the same nodes being used and similar style comments.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What other surprises are hidden in this software?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> de Laurie, VK3AMA
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>           
>>>
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