[Dxspider-support] [RBN-OPS] Fw: F8DGY abusing DXcluster ?

Dirk Koopman djk at tobit.co.uk
Fri Oct 11 22:44:53 CEST 2019 

What this person appears to be doing - which is particularly annoying - 
is gating (possibly raw) RBN spots onto the normal cluster network. The 
RBN network is separate for a reason, If you want RBN spots they are 
freely available but there an agreement (of sorts) that the two networks 
shall not redistribute each other's spots. AR-C version 6 software 
apparently allows local users to opt into the RBN as well, but it 
doesn't distribute them. I have said that I will add a similar system to 
DXSpider but I am finding it slightly challenging at the moment,,,

Dirk G1TLH

On 11/10/2019 20:49, dd5xx--- via Dxspider-support wrote:
> I'm sorried, I did mean to ban him from the cluster network. As he's a 
> CW operator he should be still visible in RBN. But he said he's not 
> using cluster network so there's nothing wrong about rejecting his 
> call on the DXcluster network. I will forward this message to the 
> DXspider list. Hopefully someone will forward this to the other lists 
> as I am only a DXspider user. I have no clue about ARcluster lists out 
> there.
> 73
> Saki, DD5XX
> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 11. Oktober 2019 um 21:46 Uhr
> *Von:* "Pete Smith" <n4zr at comcast.net>
> *An:* RBN-OPS at groups.io
> *Betreff:* Re: [RBN-OPS] Fw: F8DGY abusing DXcluster ?
>
> I'm even more puzzled after looking at the YouTube videos. Here's a 
> guy whose QRZ listing makes him out to be a real Luddite, vehemently 
> opposed to computers and decoders for CW, and yet he's using a Winkey 
> CW decoder to demonstrate QRQ CW with an electronic keyer.  The 
> problem, as I can see from his QRZ, is that it needs to be in French. 
> Maybe I can try with Google Translate.
>
> In the meantime, it seems unfair to ban him from the RBN.
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
> Check out the Reverse Beacon Network
> at<http://reversebeacon.net>, now
> spotting RTTY activity worldwide.
> For spots, please use your favorite
> "retail" DX cluster.
> On 10/11/2019 3:05 PM, DD5XX wrote:
>
>     Well, after what happening under his call, his reputation is not
>     very good as you see here:
>     https://dxheat.com/db/F8DGY/
>     Of course his QRZ.com lookups is very hight because a lot of
>     people out there are annoyed by the actions that were taken under
>     his callsign.  However, I don't think it's himself causing this
>     trouble but someone abusing his callsign. F8DGY is a good CW
>     operator as I see on his uploaded YT videos here:
>     https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCo1R39beDWSh32vZxqFYjIA
>     no clue which of his friend (foe?) is doing it HI HI, but --> as
>     he said officially on his QRZ.com page that he's not using
>     DXcluster at all, I would suggest to reject/ban this callsign
>     F8DGY completely from RBN and DXcluster networks. Just my 2 cents
>     73
>     Saki, DD5XX
>     *Gesendet:* Freitag, 11. Oktober 2019 um 19:21 Uhr
>     *Von:* "Pete Smith" <n4zr at comcast.net>
>     *An:* RBN-OPS at groups.io
>     *Betreff:* Re: [RBN-OPS] Fw: F8DGY abusing DXcluster ?
>     It appears that the basic complaint is that F8DGY is spotting on
>     the RBN and then spotting the same info on a conventional DX
>     cluster - is that right?  I looked at his QRZ entry, and he is
>     certainly down on spotting, DX chasing, etc., but he is also
>     extremely active - his number of lookups on QRZ is 30 percent
>     higher than mine.  The puzzling thing is that according to the
>     RBN's records, he has been an RBN node-op for the last 5 years,
>     and was last online with our server, as I write this, 16 minutes
>     ago.  How does that fit?
>
>     73, Pete N4ZR
>     Check out the Reverse Beacon Network
>     at<http://reversebeacon.net>, now
>     spotting RTTY activity worldwide.
>     For spots, please use your favorite
>     "retail" DX cluster.
>
>     On 10/11/2019 12:03 PM, David Robbins wrote:
>
>         According to his qrz.com page he doesn't use clusters, but his call showed as a user here from ip address...
>
>             12-Sep-2019 1451Z: F8DGY      Connected     Telnet Server Port 7373 - 90.46.38.97:7373
>         Which comes back to wanadoo.fr.
>
>         As he claims not to use clusters or cw decoders I have blocked the call here....
>
>         However as I type this he reconnected as f8dgy1 from
>
>             11-Oct-2019 1556Z: F8DGY1     Connected     Telnet Server Port 7373 - 92.170.169.241:7373
>         Which is also from wanadoo.fr.
>
>         If anyone finds either of those ip's in their log from a different callsign it might help determine who it is.
>
>
>
>         David Robbins K1TTT
>         e-mail:mailto:k1ttt at arrl.net
>         web:http://wiki.k1ttt.net
>         AR-Cluster node:telnet://k1ttt.net:7373
>
>
>         -----Original Message-----
>         From:RBN-OPS at groups.io  [mailto:RBN-OPS at groups.io] On Behalf Of DD5XX
>         Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 14:21
>         To: Dirk Koopman (G1TLH);RBN-OPS at groups.io
>         Subject: [RBN-OPS] Fw: F8DGY abusing DXcluster ?
>
>         sorry, forgot to add the attachment. I will send this message also to the RBN-ops reflector as it may concern it, too? Maybe the admins can see and check where the spots come from and take some action.
>
>
>
>         Gesendet: Freitag, 11. Oktober 2019 um 16:17 Uhr
>         Von:dd5xx at web.de
>         An: "Dirk Koopman (G1TLH)"<dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk>
>         Betreff: F8DGY abusing DXcluster ?
>
>         Dear all,
>
>         I am reading a lot of spots in the DXcluster from spotter=F8DGY (see attached screenshot). It seems that those spots are automatically generated because I just saw my own callsign right after I called CQ, just a few seconds later. That means this "bad guy" is using an SDR to monitor the band and he spots all stations appearing on the RBN network.
>
>         I looked into the QRZ.com page of F8DGY and as it seems someone is abusing his callsign. Is there anything known on this and is it wise and does it make sense to block him because he is abusing the DXcluster?
>
>         73
>         Saki, DD5XX
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