[Dxspider-support] /LH suffix in callsign resolved as NORWAY

Rene Olsen rene.chr.olsen at gmail.com
Mon Aug 24 10:32:45 CEST 2020


Hi.

This really has nothing to do with dxspider.

In my opinion it is the ones signing or spotting /LH or LH/ that are doing things wrong, since in 
both cases they are applying to be in Norway.

I know this is an attempt to show that they are lighthouse stations, but doing it with /LH or LH/ 
is not the way to do it. And dxspider just does what it is supposed to do. It resolves them to 
Norway.

It is only one weekend a year anyway, as far as I know, so guess we can live with it.

Vy 73 de René / OZ1LQH

On 24 Aug 2020 at 9:45, dd5xx--- via Dxspider-support wrote:

> 
> I want to add that I noticed those are recommendations. I don't know how this is handled in 
> other countries or even in the States. However I often hear K land stations adding a suffix to 
> their callsign, however we in Europe add the prefix.
>  
> Examples:
>  
> - when I operate on holiday from Greece I use SV2/DD5XX or SV7/DD5XX dependent on the 
> area I'm currently at.
> - when a US operator W1ABC operates in Canada I often heard callsigns like W1ABC/VY
>  
> but some DXpeditions (small or big) often occur the right way, that means with the visited 
> country as PREFIX (example here)
> From the logical understanding one should always PREFIXing indiciating the current position 
> of the amateur radio station, NOT SUFFIXing.
>  
> just my 0.02
> 73, Saki
> DD5XX
>   
> Gesendet: Montag, 24. August 2020 um 09:30 Uhr
> Von: "dd5xx--- via Dxspider-support" <dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk>
> An: dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk
> Cc: dd5xx at web.de
> Betreff: Re: [Dxspider-support] /LH suffix in callsign resolved as NORWAY
> Look here and especially for T/R 61-01
>   
> [...]
> 2.3When transmitting in the visited country the licence holder must use his 
> national call sign preceded by the call sign prefix of the visited country as 
> indicated in ANNEX 2: and ANNEX 4:. The call sign prefix and the national call 
> sign must be separated by the character "/" (telegraphy) or the word "stroke" 
> (telephony).
> [...]
>  
> What I learned in my amateur radio exam was: there are only three valid suffixes in callsigns 
> and those are /P /M and /MM, nothing more. There's no /AM, there's no /A or any other 
> suffixes we often see in real life. Another document I found although not officially and valid 
> international but worth a look is HERE
>  
> 73
> Saki, DD5XX
>  
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 23. August 2020 um 23:47 Uhr
> Von: "Dirk Koopman via Dxspider-support" <dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk>
> An: dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk
> Cc: "Dirk Koopman" <djk at tobit.co.uk>
> Betreff: Re: [Dxspider-support] /LH suffix in callsign resolved as NORWAY
> Clearly, that passed me by.
> 
> Can anyone point me at a link?
> 
> 73 Dirk G1TLH
> 
> On 23/08/2020 20:46, DD5XX via Dxspider-support wrote:
> and I thought IARU did that... at least I learned it on such a way. 
>  
> 73 
> Saki - DD5XX
>  
> -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
> Von: Dirk Koopman via Dxspider-support <dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk>
> Datum: 23.08.20 21:05 (GMT+01:00)
> An: dd5xx--- via Dxspider-support <dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk>
> Cc: Dirk Koopman <djk at tobit.co.uk>
> Betreff: Re: [Dxspider-support] /LH suffix in callsign resolved as NORWAY
>  
> Sadly the computer (nor the programmer responsible for it) is a mind reader.
> 
> I don't know what one could sensibly do about this, other than suggest that prefix 
> alterations go at the front and "someone" draws up, and then promulgates, a list of valid 
> postfixes.
> 
> 73 Dirk
>  
> On 23/08/2020 17:00, dd5xx--- via Dxspider-support wrote:
> Hi all,
>  
> currently I see lots of lighthouse activities and they are spotted with the suffix /LH 
> on the cluster albeit this is not a valid and IARU conform callsign suffix. However, I 
> realized that those spots are resolved as NORWAY on most of the cluster nodes.
>  
> examples:
>  
> DL1ABC/LH = Norway
> W1XYZ/LH = Norway
> PY1RST/LH = Norway
>  
> I am using the most recent country list on my DXspider 1.55 node although I know 
> this cannot be the reason for that malfunction.
> Any clues?
>  
> 73
> Saki, DD5XX
>     
> 
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