[Dxspider-support] Cluster beacons on the network

[Joaquin .]

Hi Ian,

I fully agree that few people read them, but some of those few seem (from
my experience) that they have discovered the possibility of having
previously treated RBN spots, and others have found webclusters that have
been useful to them.

The real problem is in the amount of "routing" traffic that we have due to
the architecture of our Network.

As always, it is one more opinion.

73 de Kin


El jue, 16 dic 2021 a las 9:28, Ian Maude via Dxspider-support (<
dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk>) escribió:

> I can only answer for myself Kin.  They are completely pointless bits of
> traffic on the network.  The vast majority of the time they will not be
> seen by the cluster users.  In fact, I question how many people actually
> watch announcements in general these days.  Most logging programs do not
> show announcements at all unless the user is watching the actual telnet
> session.  You mention about losing users.  I am not bothered about that at
> all because virtually nobody sees these pointless announcements,  They are
> just traffic for the sake of traffic.  It’s like saying, 'I am not going to
> dust that table because it is only a small percentage of the house'.
> Regardless of the percentage of overall traffic they represent, they don’t
> need to be there.
> You are quite right that everyone has a right to do what they wish on
> their own cluster node, as long as it does not impact the network
> negatively.  If people are happy to get all these announcements, that is
> their right of course.  I, personally, do not wish to receive them on my
> nodes and will continue to block them.
>
> 73 Ian
>
> On 15 Dec 2021, at 18:56, Joaquin . via Dxspider-support <
> dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> The truth is that I do not understand why it bothers these ann so much.
> If we look at the amount that is generated per day compared to the volume
> of spots, the value is really ridiculous. If it really detracts from the
> core performance of the cluster, you would understand.
> I can understand the concern of some system operators about losing users,
> but I don't think this is significant.
> If all clusters do not provide the same functionality, why restrict the
> freedom of users to try others, and let them decide, not us?
> Each system operator is free to manage their cluster ... perhaps users
> should also be free to choose what to do with the information received.
> We are less and less radio amateurs, why not support the few radio
> projects that are appearing.
>
> Regards,
>
> Kin
>
>
> El lun, 13 dic 2021 a las 13:37, Ian Maude via Dxspider-support (<
> dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk>) escribió:
>
>> I have not had a grump about this for several years but is it just me?
>> Why oh why do I see so many beacons coming up using Ann/full on the
>> network?  I get pages of the damn things.  I get a lot less now because I
>> add them to badspotter!  I have never seen the use for these.  Most users
>> use login programs and never see them anyway and the users they are
>> targetting are already using the cluster they are used to.
>>
>> </grump>
>>
>> Bah Humbug!
>>
>> Ian
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