[Dxspider-support] R: AGN R: Problem new build 360 With RXCLUS program Logged IN every 6 minutes

Fri Nov 26 11:43:50 GMT 2021

Hi,
Dirk I installed build 362 where you write "Restored spot format back to the way it was" but

 after installing it and checking it with two programs RXClus and GPcluster ... the problem for disconnection
 every 6 minutes and the non-check of the spots for the LOTW and the Log don't work.

Alex ik5pwj

-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: Dxspider-support <dxspider-support-bounces at tobit.co.uk> Per conto di Alex via Dxspider-support
Inviato: mercoledì 24 novembre 2021 18:01
A: 'The DXSpider Support list' <dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk>
Cc: ik5pwj at gmail.com
Oggetto: [Dxspider-support] AGN R: Problem new build 360 With RXCLUS program Logged IN every 6 minutes

I did some tests again and the problem is present only to those who use the RXCLUS program of HB9BZA, I repeat only with RXCLUS that connects to a DXSPider that has the latest release the 1.57 build 360.

With the "set / ve7cc" setting it does not solve the problem, on the contrary it makes it worse.

In fact on the IK5PWJ-6 dxspider with build 360 the problem is present (before I had build 344 and the problem was not there), and every 6 minutes the connection program used RXCLUS reconnects as if it had not received any spot dx.

In fact, we can also see that the RXCLUS program does not signal the received spot dx with the various colors (NEW band, NEW Country etc.) precisely because the character removed from the protocol line is missing, and all spot is not seen by RXCLUS even though it appears on the monitor.

I again reported the problem to HB9BZA, specifying more exactly what happens with RXCLUS when connecting to a DXspider latest release build 360.

Let's see if it can solve the problem and if it responds.
73 Alex ik5pwj

-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: Dxspider-support <dxspider-support-bounces at tobit.co.uk> Per conto di Dirk Koopman via Dxspider-support
Inviato: martedì 23 novembre 2021 14:32
A: Ian Maude via Dxspider-support <dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk>
Cc: Dirk Koopman <djk at tobit.co.uk>
Oggetto: Re: [Dxspider-support] Problem new build 360 With RXCLUS program Logged IN every 6 minutes

It's also been running connected to GB7DJK and IW5PWJ and they are working fine. But I suspect that this may be related to things like band filtering and/or some other internal parsing or spots work. If he is doing that and he isn't parsing it forwards from the start of the line and then back from the end of the line (for the time) with regexes then it will always fail.

The correct solution is for him to use set/ve7cc and treat the connection as he would a CC cluster. This will work for any version of DXSpider dated later than December 2004.

I URGE ALL CLIENT PROGRAM WRITERS that need to do clever things with incoming spot data to use the set/ve7cc command to get the spot in this
format:

CC11^7153.0^RN60ANT^23-Nov-2021^1255Z^^R1NA^179^179^K1EU^29^16^19^16^^^European-Russia-UA^Karelia-UA^^
CC11^7144.0^ON6EF/P^23-Nov-2021^1254Z^ONFF-0833 ON-01069 ON-02283 ON-01067^ON3UA^134^134^DH1TW-2^27^14^27^14^^^Belgium-ON^Belgium-ON^^
CC11^18077.0^ON4LG^23-Nov-2021^1254Z^599+ FN20 Tnx
QSO^N4RRT^134^226^WA9PIE-2^27^14^8^4^^PA^Belgium-ON^Alabama-K^JO20^FN20
CC11^21075.1^HG8IT^23-Nov-2021^1254Z^FT8  Sent: -11  Rcvd: -12 KN06  TKS X
QSO^LW2EDM^69^124^EA6VQ-1^28^15^14^13^^^Bacs-Kiscun-Csongrad-Bekes-Szeged-City-HA^Buenos-Aires-province-LU^KN06^FF81
CC11^18127.5^EA8ED^23-Nov-2021^1253Z^DME-35006^EA8RKL^36^36^EA4URE-5^36^33^36^33^^^Canary-Islands-EA8^Canary-Islands-EA8^^IL28
CC11^18115.0^KA2ABA^23-Nov-2021^1253Z^tnx qso, 73!^YO9CKJ^226^243^N2YO-2^8^5^28^20^NY^^New-Jersey-K^Muntenia-YO^FN12^
CC11^14074.3^OF3AD^23-Nov-2021^1253Z^^N3RES^130^226^AE5E^18^15^8^5^^MD^Haeme-OH^District-of-Columbia-K^^FM19
CC11^3573.6^RN0JJ^23-Nov-2021^1253Z^^HS0ZOY^182^82^VE7CC-1^33^19^49^26^^^Amurskaya-UA9^Thailand-HS^PN49^
CC11^14160.0^VA3GA^23-Nov-2021^1253Z^TNX GUNTHER
73^PD1JN^197^139^DH1TW-2^4^4^27^14^^^Ontario-VE^Netherlands-PA^^JO33
CC11^3532.0^WA7WKY^23-Nov-2021^1253Z^^VE3FAC^226^197^AE5E^6^3^4^4^OH^^Arizona-K^Ontario-VE^^

whether for spots rolling in OR sh/dx (in its many forms). It may look incomprehensible to humans but it's much easier to deal with by program. 
It really is a one line piece of program to parse this:

      in perl:   my @spot = split /\^/, $incoming_line;
    in python:   spot = incoming_line.split('^')
      in .net:   string[] spot = incoming_line.Split('^');
       in php:   $spot = explode("^", $incoming_line);

    even in C:   assuming all the variables are defined; for (i = 0, p = incoming_line; i < MAXSPOTSIZE && spot[i] = strtok(p, "^"); p = 0, ++i);

Please pass this on to anyone who might be interested.

73 Dirk G1TTLH

On 23/11/2021 08:36, Ian Maude via Dxspider-support wrote:
> I have downloaded this and I am running It in Windows 10 in a VM.  
> Connected to GB7MBC running build 360.  So far running for 30 minutes 
> with no problems
>
> Ian
>
>> On 23 Nov 2021, at 00:12, Alex via Dxspider-support <dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> Dirk,
>> the problem is present only for those who use the RXCluster program as I have seen and then asked two other OMs in my area who use RXcluster and connect by me about the problem caused undoubtedly by the space you have removed and that RXCluster does not digest.
>>
>> I tried to connect with other programs for example with CC user of ve7cc and also with the logger32 program in telnet towards the dxspider and the connections work perfectly.
>> I also tried to connect with RXCluster to node ik4icz-6 which has version 157 build 344 and I remain connected without problems with RXCluster.
>>
>> The problem is only with the RXCluster and the latest version 157 build 360 this is confirmed.
>> So a little while ago I sent an email to HB9BZA explaining what happens.
>>
>> Let's see what he replies.
>> Alex ik5pwj
>>
>> -----Messaggio originale-----
>> Da: Dxspider-support <dxspider-support-bounces at tobit.co.uk> Per conto 
>> di Dirk Koopman via Dxspider-support
>> Inviato: martedì 23 novembre 2021 00:51
>> A: Alex via Dxspider-support <dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk>
>> Cc: Dirk Koopman <djk at tobit.co.uk>
>> Oggetto: Re: [Dxspider-support] R: Problem new build 360 With RXCLUS 
>> program Logged IN every 6 minutes
>>
>> As the website helpfully suggests that I can run the program in Linux under Wine. So I downloaded and installed it. I am happily connected to gb7djk and to you and getting spots. Also, as far as i can tell he is just displaying stuff as I send without messing about with it. Mind you, if I increase the width of the window he does not honour the new set/width command - which a bare telnet session will do.
>>
>> So I am a bit confused.
>>
>> Dirk
>>
>> On 22/11/2021 23:30, Alex via Dxspider-support wrote:
>>> Hi Dirk, unfortunately I don't know if it depends on the space you cleared.
>>> I don't know how to verify it, but it would seem that whoever uses 
>>> the RXCLUSTER program does not receive any dx spot and then after 
>>> exactly
>>> 6 minutes reconnects again to the cluster that responds to the 
>>> request before disconnecting the user, as it is the user always 
>>> connected, sending the logged out and then connecting again, send the logged in.
>>>
>>> I don't know how it can be solved, but I will try to send an email 
>>> to HB9BZA and explain the problem to him to find a solution.
>>>
>>>   73 Alex ik5pwj
>>>
>>> -----Messaggio originale-----
>>> Da: Dxspider-support <dxspider-support-bounces at tobit.co.uk> Per 
>>> conto di Dirk Koopman via Dxspider-support
>>> Inviato: martedì 23 novembre 2021 00:00
>>> A: Alex via Dxspider-support <dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk>
>>> Cc: Dirk Koopman <djk at tobit.co.uk>
>>> Oggetto: Re: [Dxspider-support] Problem new build 360 With RXCLUS 
>>> program Logged IN every 6 minutes
>>>
>>> Could this have anything to do with me removing one (useless) space 
>>> from the display of spots?
>>>
>>> Dirk
>>>
>>> On 22/11/2021 21:57, Alex via Dxspider-support wrote:
>>>> Unfortunately, since today I upgraded from version 157 build 358 to 
>>>> version
>>>> 1.57 build 360 I have a problem affecting some connections of users 
>>>> who use the RXCLUS 8.5K program.
>>>>
>>>> Every 6 minutes the connection from the RXCLUS restarts and then if 
>>>> you look at the log, the user first logged OUT and then Logged IN appears.
>>>>
>>>>    It seems that in the build 358 version there was a command that 
>>>> sent a check to verify the connection and this started from the 
>>>> dxspider to the user.
>>>>    Now perhaps this does not go with the build 360 version and 
>>>> therefore the user who uses the RXCLUS program reconnects after 6 minutes
>>>>    even though he is already connected and from the log the logged 
>>>> out appears to me first and immediately after the loged IN.
>>>>
>>>>    However, I have seen that this only happens with users who use 
>>>> the automatic connection with the RXCLUS program.
>>>> I also use this program RXCLUS VERSION 8.5K and if I connect to the
>>>> ik5pwj-6 cluster with the build 360 installed,
>>>>    it happens that every 6 minutes exactly the RXclus program 
>>>> automatically resends the connection and then from the log you see 
>>>> that the connection is resent ,
>>>>    I repeat, this exactly every 6 minutes.
>>>>
>>>>    Has anyone noticed anything about it?
>>>> 73 Alex ik5pwj.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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