[Dxspider-support] Interesting Problem with spots format and N1MM

Björn Ekelund bjorn at ekelund.nu
Sun Jan 23 11:52:44 GMT 2022


The -# suffix is very important. Loggers need to know if the spot is a
human spot or skimmer generated.

Björn

Den sön 23 jan. 2022 kl 12:18 skrev Rob Harrison via Dxspider-support <
dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk>:

> I tend to agree Ian……. Do you know why all RBN spots have the -# after
> them? The comments format certainly identifies an RBN spot. The -# seems
> unnecessary to me but possibly Dirk has a good reason for it.
>
>
>
> Just wondering!
>
>
>
> 73 de Rob
>
>
>
> *From:* Dxspider-support <dxspider-support-bounces at tobit.co.uk> *On
> Behalf Of *Ian Maude via Dxspider-support
> *Sent:* 23 January 2022 08:10
> *To:* The DXSpider Support list <dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk>
> *Cc:* Ian Maude <ijmaude at icloud.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Dxspider-support] Interesting Problem with spots format
> and N1MM
>
>
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> From my point of view, the DXCluster has to keep pace with the times.  RBN
> is a prime example.  There is only so much space on a line and callsigns
> get ever more complicated.  I remember the fun when Australia released
> novice calls with an extra character.
>
>
>
> The logging programs out there that connect to the clusters need to be
> able to access those facilities.  It is not up to the cluster software
> authors to change their software to suit the logging programs.  If logging
> software is no longer supported, then you either need to live with it or
> change program.
>
>
>
> If nothing changed, we would still be using DOS and AK1A.  Whilst I
> appreciate the frustration of logging program authors, the cluster is a
> server and the logging programs the clients.  You don’t change the server
> to suit the clients.
>
>
>
> There is a mailing list (cluster-tech) set up for discussion between
> cluster and logging program authors.  I am sure that everyone can work
> together to improve things for the end user, which is why all this is done
> in the first place.
>
>
>
> 73 Ian
>
>
>
> On 23 Jan 2022, at 07:57, Rob Harrison via Dxspider-support <
> dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
> Seems strange that the worlds number one cluster program and worlds number
> one contest logging program are incompatible with each other
>
>
>
> 73
>
> Rob Harrison
>
> 07826 958358
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> On 23 Jan 2022, at 07:26, Iain Philipps via Dxspider-support <
> dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk> wrote:
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> 
>
> Question:
>
> Who set this “de facto standard”, exactly?
>
>
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>
>
> 73 de WR3D
>
>
>
>
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> *From:* Dxspider-support [mailto:dxspider-support-bounces at tobit.co.uk
> <dxspider-support-bounces at tobit.co.uk>] *On Behalf Of *Björn Ekelund via
> Dxspider-support
> *Sent:* 23 January 2022 05:25
> *To:* The DXSpider Support list
> *Cc:* Björn Ekelund
> *Subject:* Re: [Dxspider-support] Interesting Problem with spots format
> and N1MM
>
>
>
> DXLog used to have exactly the same problem and we ended up redesigning
> the spot parsing just because of this.
>
>
>
> DXSpider omits the colon after the spotter's callsign if it is longer than
> 7 characters. As I have pointed out to Dirk,
>
> I think this is a very unfortunate deviation from the de facto standard
> formatting of spots. Many software software
>
> rely on the colon being there and some of them are no longer maintained.
>
>
>
> Björn SM7IUN
>
>
>
> Den lör 22 jan. 2022 kl 14:28 skrev Rob Harrison via Dxspider-support <
> dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk>:
>
> Hi,
>
> I am trying to do the BARTG RTTY SPRINT today, but noticed that many spots
> are being filtered that should not be in N1MM
>
> If you look at the attached image you will see spots greyed out
> ((filtered) that shouldn't be. I have noticed that every spot that N1MM
> deems OK has a : (colon) at the end...but spots that don't have the colon
> such as OH9GHV are filtered...... looks like DXspider doesn't have room for
> the colon.
>
> Help
>
> 73 de Rob G4UJS
>
>
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