[Dxspider-support] Dx-World and DxCluster

[Mike McCarthy, W1NR]

Thank you Dirk!

I also will try not to be rude but I do not appreciate threats of 
immediate disconnection for not complying with the self made DxCluster 
police because I am not yet on the mojo branch. I have been running a 
cluster since 2000, primarily for my contest club and its large 
membership base but also open to all. I do not get compensation or 
donations for providing this service.

My node is much more than just a DX cluster for 100+ users and feed for 
18+ nodes. It is a WEB, FTP and email server as well. It is running 
CentOS 7, which is approaching EOL and needs to be updated.

Given these issues as well as my lack of available time to perform an 
update, I have been slowly staging a replacement server for the past 8 
weeks or more. It is not yet ready to deploy. I have also made the 
decision that I will NOT be deploying it until after the ARRL DX 
contests, sometime in March and pending my availability.

So please think about all the other ramifications when making proposals.

73 and best DX,
Mike, W1NR

On 2/11/2023 8:25 AM, Dirk Koopman via Dxspider-support wrote:
> I don't wish to appear rude, OK perhaps only a bit rude.
> 
> Do you have any idea of how much work is involved in providing this 
> service? Do you have a ready group of client program writers that are 
> prepared to put the work in to provide users with what they went out of 
> the service that you propose (over and above what cluster nodes now 
> provide)? Do you have power over the existing logging/contest  
> applications programmers to force them to use your proposed system? What 
> new special sauce is this system going to provide that users will want? 
> In fact, in what technical way is the existing system actually broken, 
> that your proposal would fix?  Oh, and before I forget, who is going to 
> pay for this centralised system - both for its implementation and its 
> running costs?
> 
> How do you intend to police the content?  Because that is the problem 
> that we are trying to solve in the here and now. There are no technical 
> challenges, of any consequence, that cannot be solved in the existing 
> system.
> 
> What we somehow need to do: is solve/fix the people using it. Preferably 
> in a more effective and humane way than Twitter is managing to do.
> 
> If you want to throw out 25 1/2 years of work (there may, unfortunately, 
> be some detectable hyperbole there) and start again from scratch - you 
> are palpably "reinventing the wheel". Which is fine, "go you right ahead 
> bor" (as they might say in Norfolk). I would wish you well, I really 
> would. That's how and why I started after all.
> 
> In the meantime, if you have any _*new*_ suggestions as to how Lee and I 
> can detect and remove or, better yet, prevent more of the bad stuff 
> getting online in the first place - on the system that we have today - 
> please tell us. Offline would be good,
> 
> Thank you for your attention
> 
> Dirk G1TLH
>