[Dxspider-support] Dx-World and DxCluster

[Rene Olsen]

Hi.

Been reading some of the inputs on this matter.

We don't need 2FA login and encrypted links and what else in my opinion.

I have been running DX cluster for 20+ years, and I agree that we have some problems that 
needs to be addressed.

But turning on registration I believe will solve the majority of the issues.

Another thing to look at though, is the sources we accept spots from.

Any point that can feed spots into our network, should have some kind of registration or login 
of their users. If not those sources should simply not be trusted to send spots into our 
network.

Also it would be a good idea, like someone else suggested, to make sure that link partners 
are running the most recent version of the software. I am not saying that being 5-10 builds is 
a big issue. But not having updated for years is a problem. And yes, I was in that boat. 
System worked, and I saw no problems on my node, so I didn't update for a long time. But 
then problems started to creep in, and I updated and enabled registration.

If we all pull together and try to push our link partners to be updated, I think we will come a 
long way, rather than to start talking about 2FA and what else.

Remeber the software we use is written by individuals, and putting it on them to try and 
change the entire system, when it can be handled with minor changes, is just not fair.

I believe that using registration and making sure which sources feeds spots into our network, 
can solve this just fine.

Vy 73 de Rene / OZ1LQH


On 11 Feb 2023 at 15:17, Rob Hardenberg via Dxspider-s wrote:

> Considerations
> 
> Do we have any idea how many users out of the total are abusing the
> dxcluster? 
> I think it might be a few % if not less. Are we going to burden 99% of
> users with 2FA login etc...? + all software that needs to be adjusted.
> The calf grows larger than the cow. 
> In addition, I think that at least half of all abusers are also
> "normal" radio amateurs, so they will be in the network anyway. 
> 
> Wouldn't it be more effective to develop the right tools and actively
> track down the abusers and take measures there? 
> I think the badip. badspotter, baddx badword tools are good, only we
> need to make a global database of them and distribute them faster over
> the dxclusters.
> 
> 73 Rob PE1ITR
> 
> 
> On Sat, 2023-02-11 at 13:59 +0000, Ian Maude via Dxspider-support
> wrote:
> > Oh my!  That´s twice in one day.  (I need a lie down or maybe more
> > beer!
> > 
> > Ian
> > 
> > > On 11 Feb 2023, at 13:57, Iain Philipps via Dxspider-support
> > > <dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Dirk,
> > >  
> > > * I don't wish to appear rude, OK perhaps only a bit rude.
> > >  
> > > You will be one of only a handful of readers here that would
> > > recognise the level of restraint applied by me in my response to
> > > this "topic". I remember well the vat of ale you brought to the
> > > VHFNFD site at Dunwich where we discussed the notion of Spider.
> > > Metaphorically I am still standing in that tent.
> > > 
> > > Sanity begins at home; it is the responsibility of EVERY SysOp to
> > > manage their cluster in a fashion that brings peace and harmony to
> > > the network. Throwing code and resource at this is likely to make
> > > it worse - quickly - rather than better.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 73 de WR3D
> > >  
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