[Dxspider-support] Removal of /P and /MM

Mike G3YPP mike at g3ypp.uk
Sun Apr 14 12:07:57 BST 2024


Fortunately I am also seeing those spots with build 533

I don’t understand why you would want to remove these suffixes which are a key part of the callsign for hunters for such things as WWFF, SOTA, POTA etc.  

Mike G3YPP

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: New build 532 (Luigi Carlotto IK5ZUK)
   2. Re: New build 532 (Keith Maton)
   3. Removal of /P and /MM (Mike G3YPP)
   4. Re: Removal of /P and /MM (Keith Maton)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2024 20:18:29 +0200
From: Luigi Carlotto IK5ZUK <ik5zuk at tiscali.it>
To: The DXSpider Support list <dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [Dxspider-support] New build 532
Message-ID: <34677e9a-a33f-4b1e-b988-1387472553c1 at tiscali.it>
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Hi Dirk,
I've done only "git pull".

Now I've done

git reset --hard
git pull

but the errors is still here: Spider won't starts. Please, can you give 
me more help?

Thank you.

73 Luigi IK5ZUK

Il 13/04/2024 19:42, Dirk Koopman via Dxspider-support ha scritto:
> Have you done
>
> git reset --hard
> git pull
>
> On 13/04/2024 13:40, Luigi Carlotto IK5ZUK wrote:
>> Hello,
>> after upgrading the Mojo to 532, Spider won't start and I've received 
>> the following errors:
>>
>> sysop at HAMRADIO-:/spider/perl$ ./cluster.pl &
>> [1] 1139
>> sysop at HAMRADIO-:/spider/perl$ Global symbol "$nossid" requires 
>> explicit package name at /spider/perl/Filter.pm line 362.
>> Global symbol "$nossid" requires explicit package name at 
>> /spider/perl/Filter.pm line 363.
>> Global symbol "$n" requires explicit package name at 
>> /spider/perl/Filter.pm line 364.
>> Global symbol "$n" requires explicit package name at 
>> /spider/perl/Filter.pm line 366.
>> Global symbol "$nossid" requires explicit package name at 
>> /spider/perl/Filter.pm line 368.
>> syntax error at /spider/perl/Filter.pm line 369, near 
>> "Filter::read_in($sort, $dxchan->is_user ? 'user_default'"
>> BEGIN not safe after errors--compilation aborted at 
>> /spider/perl/Filter.pm line 405.
>> Compilation failed in require at /spider/perl/DXChannel.pm line 33.
>> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /spider/perl/DXChannel.pm line 33.
>> Compilation failed in require at ./cluster.pl line 128.
>> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at ./cluster.pl line 128.
>>
>>
>> What I can do to start it again?
>>
>> TNX !
>>
>> 73 Luigi IK5ZUK
>>
>>
>> Il 13/04/2024 13:17, Kin via Dxspider-support ha scritto:
>>> Hi to all,
>>>
>>> I've just been informed by the Telegram bot that we have a new build in
>>> Mojo: 532
>>> This is what Dirk has done:
>>>
>>> 27Mar24===================================================================== 
>>>
>>> =
>>> 1. Fix dupe PC[16]1 (spot) coming in "too fast" for dupe filter to 
>>> work.
>>>
>>> ??? Probably.
>>> 25Mar24===================================================================== 
>>>
>>> =
>>> 1. Make talk work. Note: this now works as the mojo branch originally
>>> ??? expected - which means that it may (and likely will) flood route 
>>> talks
>>> ??? where the callsign that you want to talk to does not have a 
>>> route to
>>> ??? both the callsign and any nodes that it may be connected to.
>>> 22Mar24===================================================================== 
>>>
>>> =
>>> 1. Change the processing of trailing callsigns slightly so that /1 
>>> /2 etc
>>> are
>>> ??? retained, but the /P /M /A /MM etc are removed.
>>> 20Mar24===================================================================== 
>>>
>>> =
>>> 1. Has it really been so long since the last update?
>>> 2. Since forever, mainly because filtering was done very early on in
>>> ??? DXSpider's development, clearing a filter needed a 
>>> disconnect/reconnect
>>> ??? cycle from the user/node to activate. Now clearing or changing a 
>>> filter
>>> is
>>> ??? immediately effective in the current session.
>>>
>>> ??? Also things like: 'rej/spot user_default on vhf' will 
>>> immediately apply
>>> ??? to all users that do not already have some other filter in 
>>> place. Users
>>> ??? can override this by setting a filter.
>>>
>>> ??? The Filter system will now show the actual token that a faulty 
>>> command
>>> ??? dislikes.
>>> 3. Disable the "is there a route to callsign X3XXX" test in talk. 
>>> This is a
>>> ??? legacy test that should not apply at the user level. The 
>>> resulting PC93
>>> is
>>> ??? flood routed unless there is a genuine direct route to that 
>>> callsign.
>>>
>>> Take the opportunity to upgrade to Mojo!!!
>>>
>>> 73 de Kin EA3CV
>>>
>>> Sysop EA3CV-2, EA4URE2, 3 & 5
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2024 22:30:08 +0100
From: Keith Maton <g6nhu at me.com>
To: The DXSpider Support list <dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [Dxspider-support] New build 532
Message-ID: <558EC04C-0CD6-4969-B310-B9E033C606D4 at me.com>
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Updated successfully here using your check_build script.

73 Keith



> On 13 Apr 2024, at 12:17, Kin via Dxspider-support <dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Hi to all,
> 
> I've just been informed by the Telegram bot that we have a new build in
> Mojo: 532
> This is what Dirk has done:
> 
> 27Mar24=====================================================================
> =
> 1. Fix dupe PC[16]1 (spot) coming in "too fast" for dupe filter to work.
> 
>   Probably.
> 25Mar24=====================================================================
> =
> 1. Make talk work. Note: this now works as the mojo branch originally
>   expected - which means that it may (and likely will) flood route talks
>   where the callsign that you want to talk to does not have a route to
>   both the callsign and any nodes that it may be connected to.
> 22Mar24=====================================================================
> =
> 1. Change the processing of trailing callsigns slightly so that /1 /2 etc
> are
>   retained, but the /P /M /A /MM etc are removed.
> 20Mar24=====================================================================
> =
> 1. Has it really been so long since the last update?
> 2. Since forever, mainly because filtering was done very early on in
>   DXSpider's development, clearing a filter needed a disconnect/reconnect
>   cycle from the user/node to activate. Now clearing or changing a filter
> is
>   immediately effective in the current session.
> 
>   Also things like: 'rej/spot user_default on vhf' will immediately apply
>   to all users that do not already have some other filter in place. Users
>   can override this by setting a filter.
> 
>   The Filter system will now show the actual token that a faulty command
>   dislikes.
> 3. Disable the "is there a route to callsign X3XXX" test in talk. This is a
>   legacy test that should not apply at the user level. The resulting PC93
> is
>   flood routed unless there is a genuine direct route to that callsign.
> 
> Take the opportunity to upgrade to Mojo!!!
> 
> 73 de Kin EA3CV
> 
> Sysop EA3CV-2, EA4URE2, 3 & 5
> 
> 
> 
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2024 09:55:44 +0100
From: Mike G3YPP <mike at g3ypp.uk>
To: "dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk" <dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk>
Subject: [Dxspider-support] Removal of /P and /MM
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Hi Dirk,

Is my understanding correct that the latest version removes /P and /MM from spotted callsigns or have I misread the changes file?    

Regards

Mike G3YPP
Sysop for MX0NCA-2

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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2024 11:05:00 +0100
From: Keith Maton <g6nhu at me.com>
To: The DXSpider Support list <dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [Dxspider-support] Removal of /P and /MM
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That?s how I read it but I?m still seeing spots for /P stations appearing.

73 Keith


> On 14 Apr 2024, at 09:55, Mike G3YPP via Dxspider-support <dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Hi Dirk,
>  
> Is my understanding correct that the latest version removes /P and /MM from spotted callsigns or have I misread the changes file?    
>  
> Regards
>  
> Mike G3YPP
> Sysop for MX0NCA-2
>  
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