[Dxspider-support] Spot with False Origin Nodes

[Mikel EA2CW]

+1

Thanks Dirk!

Driven by the same "WWA ham spirit":
I will -try- to block any such commercial activity using my resources.
If anybody tries to impersonate me or my node -as WWA did- I will also 
block him.
I pay for my computers, cloud, internet connection and electricity, and 
I can -and will- block anyone I want (always according to ham spirit, of 
course)

P.S. These last days I am really surprised by the fact that several 
people making, let's say, "weird experiments" on the cluster network, 
suddenly appear after being blocked, trying to justify their facts.
Not before being banned, but always later. mmm...

This is again the same case. In spanish: "It is better to ask for pardon 
than ask for permission"

73, Mikel EA2CW | AE2CW


El 4/2/25 a las 16:17, Dirk Koopman via Dxspider-support escribió:
> Lorenzo
> 
> Not in any particular order:
> 
>   * You are a commercial entity which decided, without ever asking
>     anyone, whether it would be OK to AUTOMATICALLY send spots to the
>     network. And doing this to the extent that about half of all spots
>     were WWA related for several days.
>   * You are using bandwidth provided by others - at their expense - for
>     your commercial gain.
>   * Someone contacted you and was informed that this would stop last
>     Wednesday, but it didn't stop until the evening before least
>     weekend's contest.
>   * For at least the first three days, spots were being sent from
>     unknown users (who were not visibly logged on anywhere) on unknown
>     nodes with apparently forged IP addresses from a node connection
>     (apparently in the USA) that was not visible on the network. There
>     was very little "Ham Spirit" visible there.
>   * As for validating users via qrz.com, a quick scan through the
>     archive will tell you that you are, at best, misinformed.
>   * We all noticed that once we started to filter out this traffic that
>     your tactics changed - for the better - but not enough, so no cigar.
>   * I looked at your website on the day that this started any the ONLY
>     information that I could find (not easily) was a very odd postal
>     address suggesting a location in Italy. No callsign, no email
>     address - nothing useful.
>   * We have no bias against anyone that uses the system responsibly. And
>     we define "responsibly" as a human operator either typing a spot or
>     pressing a (function) key in a user app.
>   * You are not the only app/system that sends stuff automatically.
>     Whichever Ftx app(s) are automatically spotting each contact that
>     they hear/make are next on my list.
> 
> If you wish / need a distributed channel for communications through the 
> network. There are better methods of doing that without diluting the 
> spot feed. The user base can do that, manually, well enough without 
> machine help :-(.
> 
> Your assumption that your idea of "Ham Spirit" would allow your app to 
> do what it did managed to piss off all the active node sysops and a 
> large proportion of the existing user base. As well as causing the 
> sysops a lot of extra work trying to manage it.
> 
> But, on a positive note, I had a good hard look at the filtering code, 
> fixed a few small bugs and improved the debugging messages so that, next 
> time, when someone tries something that behaves in a dumping huge gobs 
> of spots on the network - we will be better prepared.
> 
> If you wish to discuss how to use the network responsibly, and in the 
> first instance, please feel free to contact me directly.
> 
> But, BE WARNED, any attempt to flood spots onto the network will not be 
> permitted.  And will hold you to your statement saying that all spots 
> are generated manually and will insist your system makes sure that users 
> are logged into (a) real node(s) with real IP addresses. I may yet 
> invoke the "nuclear option" of dumping all protocol spots from users 
> that cannot be identified in real time, one way or another, via the 
> routing tables for all active users/nodes that each DXSpider node has.
> 
> Dirk G1TLH
> 
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