[Dxspider-support] The results are in for today (so far)

[Christopher Schlegel]

Fulvio,

I think you misunderstood Kelly's message. He was stating his comments
against the providers (people creating the bad spots/abusing the network)
and their possible intention of discrediting the cluster sysops, in light
of the recent events with WWA and others.

Just my take...

73,

Chris, WI3W


On Wed, Feb 12, 2025, 13:05 HB9DHG Fulvio via Dxspider-support <
dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk> wrote:

> Kelly,
>
> First of all, let me thank you for this email, not necessarily for its
> content, which I find somewhat disrespectful (there’s no greeting, no
> sign-off, and no courtesy), but because it gives me the opportunity to
> respond (and we are free to do so) to your statement.
>
> First of all, this is a group of Sysops (or even free interested guys) who
> are simply trying to improve the network, investing their resources and
> time to provide a reliable tool, just like the cluster is.
>
> Courtesy would have been simply asking why these "bad spots" are occurring
> in a polite and respectful manner. I do agree with you, "I'm
> misunderstanding what is going on." Yes, because here we are just analyzing
> the logs, which are "transparent" to the Sysops, and I’m happy that they
> are transparent to all those subscribed to this group.
>
> Please feel free not to respond if you prefer. I am, like many others,
> using software that has given me great satisfaction, as the Linux version
> has even helped me grow professionally.
>
> I don’t think we are "attempting to discredit the service." We are simply
> working actively to make the network more transparent. If there are doubts
> or questions, maybe they should be asked in a polite and respectful manner,
> for the sake of all parties involved.
>
> Sorry for the outburst, but I feel better now and I hope you can calmly
> raise any questions in a more serene way.
>
> HB9DHG Fulvio
>
> Sysop HB9ON-8 Cluster
>
> On Wed, Feb 12, 2025 at 6:43 PM Kelly Leavitt via Dxspider-support <
> dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> What is the end game of the providers of all of the 'bad spots'?
>>
>> An attempt at discrediting the service.
>>
>> I will NEVER understand behavior like this, or am I misunderstanding what
>> is going on.
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Dxspider-support <dxspider-support-bounces at tobit.co.uk> on
>> behalf of Dirk Koopman via Dxspider-support <dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk
>> >
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 12, 2025 10:20 AM
>> *To:* Dxspider-Support <dxspider-support at dxcluster.org>
>> *Cc:* Dirk Koopman <djk at tobit.co.uk>
>> *Subject:* [Dxspider-support] The results are in for today (so far)
>>
>> The results are in:
>>
>> After setting $DXProt::senderverify to 1 or 2 (hint: I have set mine to
>> 2)
>>
>> And running the following two commands:
>>
>>     grepdbg '\s+<-\s+I\s+GB7DJK\s+PC61' | wc -l
>>
>> and
>>
>>     grepdbg 'bad spot ' | wc -l
>>
>> and noting the numbers on a piece of paper with the first command being
>> 'A' and the second 'B' and then doing this simple calculation:
>>
>>     B * 100 / A
>>
>> The result I got for a morning's traffic (the natural result of a grepdbg
>> on today's log with sendverify set) is:
>>
>>         60.22 (%)
>>
>> Or to put it another way, most of the traffic sent today is very likely
>> fake.
>>
>> Houston, we have a problem...
>>
>> 73 Dirk G1TLH
>>
>> PS If you have had senderverify set > 0 for all of today, you can repeat
>> the example above by changing 'GB7DJK' to a similar node feeding yours from
>> which you are likely to get all/most of your spots.
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