[Dxspider-support] The results are in for today (so far)

[HB9DHG Fulvio]

Thanks, Chris.
If you're correct, I’m surely wrong, and you can blame me! :)
But in any case, I didn’t see any signature or any sign that made it look
like a proactive email.
On the other hand, your reply was kind, and I do appreciate it.
With respect, HB9DHG Fulvio
.


On Wed, Feb 12, 2025 at 7:12 PM Christopher Schlegel <sutehk.cs at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Fulvio,
>
> I think you misunderstood Kelly's message. He was stating his comments
> against the providers (people creating the bad spots/abusing the network)
> and their possible intention of discrediting the cluster sysops, in light
> of the recent events with WWA and others.
>
> Just my take...
>
> 73,
>
> Chris, WI3W
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 12, 2025, 13:05 HB9DHG Fulvio via Dxspider-support <
> dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Kelly,
>>
>> First of all, let me thank you for this email, not necessarily for its
>> content, which I find somewhat disrespectful (there’s no greeting, no
>> sign-off, and no courtesy), but because it gives me the opportunity to
>> respond (and we are free to do so) to your statement.
>>
>> First of all, this is a group of Sysops (or even free interested guys)
>> who are simply trying to improve the network, investing their resources and
>> time to provide a reliable tool, just like the cluster is.
>>
>> Courtesy would have been simply asking why these "bad spots" are
>> occurring in a polite and respectful manner. I do agree with you, "I'm
>> misunderstanding what is going on." Yes, because here we are just analyzing
>> the logs, which are "transparent" to the Sysops, and I’m happy that they
>> are transparent to all those subscribed to this group.
>>
>> Please feel free not to respond if you prefer. I am, like many others,
>> using software that has given me great satisfaction, as the Linux version
>> has even helped me grow professionally.
>>
>> I don’t think we are "attempting to discredit the service." We are simply
>> working actively to make the network more transparent. If there are doubts
>> or questions, maybe they should be asked in a polite and respectful manner,
>> for the sake of all parties involved.
>>
>> Sorry for the outburst, but I feel better now and I hope you can calmly
>> raise any questions in a more serene way.
>>
>> HB9DHG Fulvio
>>
>> Sysop HB9ON-8 Cluster
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 12, 2025 at 6:43 PM Kelly Leavitt via Dxspider-support <
>> dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> What is the end game of the providers of all of the 'bad spots'?
>>>
>>> An attempt at discrediting the service.
>>>
>>> I will NEVER understand behavior like this, or am I misunderstanding
>>> what is going on.
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Dxspider-support <dxspider-support-bounces at tobit.co.uk> on
>>> behalf of Dirk Koopman via Dxspider-support <
>>> dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 12, 2025 10:20 AM
>>> *To:* Dxspider-Support <dxspider-support at dxcluster.org>
>>> *Cc:* Dirk Koopman <djk at tobit.co.uk>
>>> *Subject:* [Dxspider-support] The results are in for today (so far)
>>>
>>> The results are in:
>>>
>>> After setting $DXProt::senderverify to 1 or 2 (hint: I have set mine to
>>> 2)
>>>
>>> And running the following two commands:
>>>
>>>     grepdbg '\s+<-\s+I\s+GB7DJK\s+PC61' | wc -l
>>>
>>> and
>>>
>>>     grepdbg 'bad spot ' | wc -l
>>>
>>> and noting the numbers on a piece of paper with the first command being
>>> 'A' and the second 'B' and then doing this simple calculation:
>>>
>>>     B * 100 / A
>>>
>>> The result I got for a morning's traffic (the natural result of a
>>> grepdbg on today's log with sendverify set) is:
>>>
>>>         60.22 (%)
>>>
>>> Or to put it another way, most of the traffic sent today is very likely
>>> fake.
>>>
>>> Houston, we have a problem...
>>>
>>> 73 Dirk G1TLH
>>>
>>> PS If you have had senderverify set > 0 for all of today, you can repeat
>>> the example above by changing 'GB7DJK' to a similar node feeding yours from
>>> which you are likely to get all/most of your spots.
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