[Dxspider-support] You are killing all Webclusters!

[PY1NB - Felipe Ceglia]

Hello guys,

I agree with and support what Tobias just wrote.

It's also worth to keep in mind that most of the web clusters need user
registration in order to post spots.
On top of that: credentials are passed via https instead of clear text as
in telnet; credentials are stored in databases with hashes;  each
account/callsign is tied to an email address.
I've been running dxwatch since 2005, and has user authentication since the
very first moment.

We might find a viable solution to solve this.

73,
Felipe Ceglia - CT7ANO, PY1NB
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On Fri, Mar 7, 2025 at 12:22 AM Tobias Wellnitz via Dxspider-support <
dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> my apologies for the slightly provocative email subject, but in the name
> of all Web Cluster operators I would like to express our strong concerns
> and disagreement about the recently rolled out "source" verification of DX
> Spots! This setting does more harm than good. Literally all spots submitted
> through web clusters are been dropped since the roleout of
> $DXProt::sendverify = 2.
> Why? Because web clusters manage their users and their accounts in the web
> stack and not in dxspider.
>
> Just to give you an idea about the magnitude: Only my web cluster (
> dxheat.com) has >30.000 registered users and has at any time 800 - 1500
> connected users. I know that Dxfun and Dxwatch are serving even larger user
> bases!
>
> Look at Andrea's table of dropped spots within a day:
>
> +-------+----------+
> | SPOTS | NODE     |
> +-------+----------+
> |   502 | EA4RCH-5 |
> |   411 | VE7CC-1  |
> |   273 | DH1TW-2  |
> |   208 | AE5E     |
> |   138 | PY1NB-4  |
> |   104 | EA6VQ-2  |
> |   103 | DO5SSB-2 |
> [...]
>
> Here is the mapping:
>
> EA4RCH-5 -> dxfun.com
> DH1TW-2 -> dxheat.com
> PY1NB-4 -> dxwatch.com
> EA6VQ-2 -> dxmaps.com
> DO5SSB-2 -> qrzcq.com/dxtron
>
> As you can imagine, we have put a lot of effort into building and
> operating these web clusters. The total number of affected users, which
> participate in the dx cluster network through our web services is larger
> than the overall users connected via telnet!
>
> We therefore kindly ask you to reconsider and undo the recent changes!
>
> Let jointly keep on discussing other possibilities on how to further
> harden together our DX Cluster network!
>
> Thanks & 73,
> Tobias, DH1TW
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