[Dxspider-support] Forgeries

[IZ2LSC]

Your assumption is that H represents the number of nodes the spots have
gone through before reaching you.
I think this assumption is wrong.
First, the hop count is DECREMENTED at each hop.
Second, the hop count to use while sending a spot is configurable.

Tracking the path is helpful to analyse from where the spots are coming in.
Analyzing logs from a few nodes you can understand what is the common entry
point.

73s

Andrea


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On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 4:57 PM Rudy Bakalov <r_bakalov at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Let’s think this thru:
>
> 1/Logs show spots with H as high as 98! Recording the node of each hop
> will increase PC61 payload on average 6 characters per hop. Let’s say
> average H is 50, that would be 300 characters plus the delimiters or about
> 350 characters.
> 2/My cluster received over 80K spots per minute. Imagine the traffic
> created by 80K messages with additional 350 characters per PC61 message.
>
> Can you describe the full algorithm you are proposing? How are you going
> to use the additional data to make a decision to accept or drop a spot?
>
> When comparing PC61 to BGP remember that BGP is designed to support
> two-way data flows. PC61 is strictly one-way and doesn’t need routing
> overhead.
>
> Rudy N2WQ
>
> Sent using a tiny keyboard.  Please excuse brevity, typos, or
> inappropriate autocorrect.
>
>
> On Mar 12, 2025, at 11:19 AM, IZ2LSC via Dxspider-support <
> dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk> wrote:
>
> 
> Mike, this is why I'm saying that we need to record the whole path, not
> only the last hop.
> Every node has to append it's ID.
> Andrea
>
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>
>
> On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 2:05 PM Mike McCarthy, W1NR via Dxspider-support <
> dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> The current release does tag spots from the incoming node partner with a
>> "via" tag. You would need to analyze all the logs in between, using the
>> "via" tag to trace it back to the source.
>>
>> On 3/12/2025 8:06 AM, IZ2LSC via Dxspider-support wrote:
>> > We are all senior developer with AI!
>> > At least you agreed that what you proposed for partner identity is not
>> a
>> > solution against the flooding.
>> > Perhaps do you also agree about the need to record the spot path?
>> >
>> > 73
>> >
>> > Andrea
>>
>> --
>> 73 de Mike, W1NR
>>
>> THAT was the equation. EXISTENCE!... SURVIVAL... must cancel out...
>> programming!
>>
>> - Ruk -
>>
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