[Dxspider-support] FTx autogenerated spots
Keith, G6NHU
g6nhu at me.com
Mon Mar 17 18:30:07 GMT 2025
It’s not for the amount of data, Kin, it’s because I object to carrying repetitive adverts for other clusters.
I don’t believe that’s what the announcement feature is really for.
73 Keith
On 17 Mar 2025 at 17:24 +0000, Kin via Dxspider-support <dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk>, wrote:
> I don't understand Keith, why you leave the user free for the spots, but not for the ann, which represent a very small amount compared to the spots.
>
> Kin EA3CV
>
> De: Dxspider-support <dxspider-support-bounces at tobit.co.uk> En nombre de Keith, G6NHU via Dxspider-support
> Enviado el: lunes, 17 de marzo de 2025 18:11
> Para: The DXSpider Support list <dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk>
> CC: Keith, G6NHU <g6nhu at me.com>
> Asunto: Re: [Dxspider-support] FTx autogenerated spots
>
> I’m with Andy on this, I think it should be something for users to decide whether they show them or not. I want to give my users the choice what they see and not dictate to them.
>
> With one caveat - Node advertising spam announcements which I filter out by having this line in my startup file. If I could stop forwarding these on, I’d happily do so.
>
> rej/ann node_default input info telnet,cluster,7000,7300,7373,8000,8888,9000,17300,port
>
>
> 73 Keith
> On 17 Mar 2025 at 16:44 +0000, g4piq via Dxspider-support <dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk>, wrote:
>
> > quote_type
> > I generally prefer the principle of dropping spots at the user level rather than on the backbone (unless they are at such a rate as to be dangerous). That way the sysio can configure their node to do what's right fir them and their user base - not what someone else further upstream thinks should be right for them. If we don't apply this principle then the spider ends up becoming closer to a full mesh...
> >
> > 73
> >
> > Andy, G4PIQ
> >
> > Sent from my Galaxy
> >
> >
> > -------- Original message --------
> > From: Dirk Koopman via Dxspider-support <dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk>
> > Date: 17/03/2025 15:14 (GMT+00:00)
> > To: Rob Roschewsk via Dxspider-support <dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk>
> > Cc: Dirk Koopman <djk at tobit.co.uk>
> > Subject: [Dxspider-support] FTx autogenerated spots
> >
> > In the spirit of discouraging client programs generating spots automatically when they work something, or for other reasons that make life difficult for sysops and users that don't use digital modes, I have introduced the following system variable: $DXProt::remove_auto_ftx which, as default (in the test branch), is currently set to 1.
> >
> > DX de WA2JQZ: 28180.0 DL2KBX FT4 DM78<>JO30 14 1415Z 5
> > DX de G0LZX: 28074.0 W0JJG FT8 -15dB 1265Hz 4 1415Z IO83
> > DX de CP6UA: 24915.0 CP6UA FT8 FH82jf -> FH82jf 10 1414Z 10
> > DX de G0LZX: 28074.0 N9AKR FT8 -13dB from EN61 200Hz 4 1414Z IO83
> > DX de G0LZX: 28074.0 G0JEI FT8 -20dB 520Hz IO93 1412Z IO83
> > DX de WA2JQZ: 28180.0 MW7TTA FT4 DM78<>IO73 IO73 1411Z 5
> > DX de IZ0FYO: 28180.0 9Z4Y FT4 JN61og -> FK90 FK90 1410Z 15
> > DX de IZ1PLH: 21076.0 BG0HP FT8 -15 dB from NL59 23 1410Z JN34
> > DX de WA2JQZ: 28180.0 OT7X FT4 DM78<>JO10 14 1408Z 5
> > DX de G0LZX: 28074.0 CE3SOC FT8 -12dB from FF46 1295Hz FF46 1408Z IO83
> > DX de YC1JEL: 28180.0 RA4M FT4 -04dB 2426Hz LO44 1441Z 28
> > DX de GM0LIR: 24919.0 6Y7EI FT4 +06dB 1585Hz 8 1442Z IO85
> > DX de G0LZX: 28074.0 YC1JEA FT8 -07dB from OI33 671Hz
> >
> > would become:
> >
> > DX de WA2JQZ: 28180.0 DL2KBX FT4 DM78<>JO30 14 1415Z 5
> > DX de CP6UA: 24915.0 CP6UA FT8 FH82jf -> FH82jf 10 1414Z 10
> > DX de WA2JQZ: 28180.0 MW7TTA FT4 DM78<>IO73 IO73 1411Z 5
> > DX de IZ0FYO: 28180.0 9Z4Y FT4 JN61og -> FK90 FK90 1410Z 15
> > DX de WA2JQZ: 28180.0 OT7X FT4 DM78<>JO10 14 1408Z 5
> >
> > It is, of course, likely that these spots that are left are auto generated too - but at least they provide some useful information. If it is deemed necessary, I can get rid of these as well, together with all the other FTx spots if necessary.
> >
> > Some people may think this is overkill, but the spot feed is filling up with more and more useless spots, most of which are machine generated. Someone has to take a stand. Now where did I put that wobbly pedestal I bought from the charity shop the other year?
> >
> > You should be made aware, the place that this is currently done, means that these spots are dropped at the PC11/PC61 protocol level - they won't be passed onward to other nodes... You may not like that... It doesn't have to work this way, it could be a user command. Please see the next paragraph.
> >
> > Someone was complaining that this list is too quiet. Maybe this will liven it up.
> >
> > 73 Dirk G1TLH
> >
> > PS I just got a bit sick of the lack of "normal" v "FTx" spots whilst testing the deduping code so I thought "I know, I've meaning to do this for ages and it's only an extra 8 lines of code and a few comments".
> >
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