[Dxspider-support] Again

[Rene Olsen]

Hi.

I know that we want to try and be backwards compatible, and every node should be able to be 
part of the network.

But at some point we will simply have to to make some minimum requirements for nodes to be 
part of the network.

Node software like you mention, where anyone can just connect as a node partner, and start 
to send data, should simply be banned from the network.

Nodes where any user can just login and start sending spots, should also not be part of the 
network. I am aware that some softwares may have rate settings on users, so thet can't just 
spot like crazy.

I have no personal preference towards any node software, but in my opinion we can't keep 
accepting the lowest possible security level, just to be backwards compatible with 10+ year 
old software, that may even no longer be maintained.

We can try to do all kinds of tricks, and I am sure Dirk is doing his best to combat this. But 
there has to be other solutions, than spending time trying to battle things, that only exsists 
because of old software and poorly maintained nodes.

Just my thougts...

Vy 73 de Rene / OZ1LQH


On 22 Mar 2025 at 13:59, Keith, G6NHU via Dxspider-sup wrote:

> Rene,
> 
> This is complete and utter speculation and I may be well off the mark.
> 
> When I set up my first dxcluster, I used some windows software that´s now been out of development for years.   I never asked anyone if I could node partner with them (because I didn´t know one was supposed to), I just set up some links to other nodes using the same software and it worked.
> 
> According to dxcluster.info, there are still over 120 of these older clusters still out there - Could these spots be coming in via one of them?
> 
> 73 Keith.
> 
> On 22 Mar 2025 at 13:43 +0000, Rene Olsen via Dxspider-support <dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk>, wrote:
> > Hi.
> >
> > Someone must know who is doing this and be covering for them.
> >
> > Maybe I am wrong, but to make those false spots, they must be running a cluster and have a
> > link to a node somewhere in the network.
> >
> > Somehow they must have an entry point into the network, where they can then spread their
> > falsified PC61 frames.
> >
> > Vy 73 de Rene / OZ1LQH
> >
> >
> > On 22 Mar 2025 at 13:31, Keith, G6NHU via Dxspider-sup wrote:
> >
> > > Genuine spots are being replicated on false frequencies.
> > >
> > > I just worked J35X on 10m FT8 and spotted it, there were around 15 instant repeats of the same spot but on different frequencies.  The bottom one is my actual spot.
> > >
> > > 73 Keith
> > >
> > >   28339.1 J35X        22-Mar-2025 1327Z SFH tnx for new slot                                       <GI7NKK>
> > >    1855.2 J35X        22-Mar-2025 1327Z SFH tnx for new slot                                       <JR8AMF>
> > >    1865.9 J35X        22-Mar-2025 1327Z SFH tnx for new slot                                        <ON4ZD>
> > >   21045.6 J35X        22-Mar-2025 1327Z SFH tnx for new slot                                       <SP2RTA>
> > >    3658.7 J35X        22-Mar-2025 1327Z SFH tnx for new slot                                       <IK0IHA>
> > >    7053.0 J35X        22-Mar-2025 1327Z SFH tnx for new slot                                       <WA2ILB>
> > >   21111.4 J35X        22-Mar-2025 1327Z SFH tnx for new slot                                       <IK0LYL>
> > >    1818.3 J35X        22-Mar-2025 1327Z SFH tnx for new slot                                        <F4JYF>
> > >    7175.3 J35X        22-Mar-2025 1327Z SFH tnx for new slot                                         <R6FS>
> > >   21044.0 J35X        22-Mar-2025 1327Z SFH tnx for new slot                                        <F4ALP>
> > >   14173.6 J35X        22-Mar-2025 1327Z SFH tnx for new slot                                       <IU5RCJ>
> > >   14308.7 J35X        22-Mar-2025 1327Z SFH tnx for new slot                                       <PU2OXB>
> > >   14201.8 J35X        22-Mar-2025 1327Z SFH tnx for new slot                                         <EA4M>
> > >    7274.3 J35X        22-Mar-2025 1327Z SFH tnx for new slot                                        <G4PEN>
> > >    1877.2 J35X        22-Mar-2025 1327Z SFH tnx for new slot                                       <WA1BXY>
> > >   28081.0 J35X        22-Mar-2025 1327Z SFH tnx for new slot                                        <G6NHU>
> > > On 22 Mar 2025 at 12:30 +0000, Jan via Dxspider-support <dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk>, wrote:
> > > > Its is flooding again
> > > >
> > > > 73
> > > > Jan
> > > > PA4JJ
> > > >
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