[Dxspider-support] Again

Sat Mar 22 16:28:03 GMT 2025

You haven't expressed anything new, René, yet you've said it all.

So many hours wasted fighting against ourselves.
If we were a boat where each rower was a sysop rowing, I doubt we would be
able to move forward in any direction.
This is nothing new, but it could be our end.

The gradient is still negative :(

Kin EA3CV

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Dxspider-support <dxspider-support-bounces at tobit.co.uk> En nombre de
Rene Olsen via Dxspider-support
Enviado el: sábado, 22 de marzo de 2025 16:40
Para: dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk
CC: Rene Olsen <rene at rcolsen.dk>
Asunto: Re: [Dxspider-support] Again

Hi.

I know that we want to try and be backwards compatible, and every node
should be able to be part of the network.

But at some point we will simply have to to make some minimum requirements
for nodes to be part of the network.

Node software like you mention, where anyone can just connect as a node
partner, and start to send data, should simply be banned from the network.

Nodes where any user can just login and start sending spots, should also not
be part of the network. I am aware that some softwares may have rate
settings on users, so thet can't just spot like crazy.

I have no personal preference towards any node software, but in my opinion
we can't keep accepting the lowest possible security level, just to be
backwards compatible with 10+ year old software, that may even no longer be
maintained.

We can try to do all kinds of tricks, and I am sure Dirk is doing his best
to combat this. But there has to be other solutions, than spending time
trying to battle things, that only exsists because of old software and
poorly maintained nodes.

Just my thougts...

Vy 73 de Rene / OZ1LQH

On 22 Mar 2025 at 13:59, Keith, G6NHU via Dxspider-sup wrote:

> Rene,
> 
> This is complete and utter speculation and I may be well off the mark.
> 
> When I set up my first dxcluster, I used some windows software that´s now
been out of development for years.   I never asked anyone if I could node
partner with them (because I didn´t know one was supposed to), I just set up
some links to other nodes using the same software and it worked.
> 
> According to dxcluster.info, there are still over 120 of these older
clusters still out there - Could these spots be coming in via one of them?
> 
> 73 Keith.
> 
> On 22 Mar 2025 at 13:43 +0000, Rene Olsen via Dxspider-support
<dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk>, wrote:
> > Hi.
> >
> > Someone must know who is doing this and be covering for them.
> >
> > Maybe I am wrong, but to make those false spots, they must be 
> > running a cluster and have a link to a node somewhere in the network.
> >
> > Somehow they must have an entry point into the network, where they 
> > can then spread their falsified PC61 frames.
> >
> > Vy 73 de Rene / OZ1LQH
> >
> >
> > On 22 Mar 2025 at 13:31, Keith, G6NHU via Dxspider-sup wrote:
> >
> > > Genuine spots are being replicated on false frequencies.
> > >
> > > I just worked J35X on 10m FT8 and spotted it, there were around 15
instant repeats of the same spot but on different frequencies.  The bottom
one is my actual spot.
> > >
> > > 73 Keith
> > >
> > >   28339.1 J35X        22-Mar-2025 1327Z SFH tnx for new slot         

> > > <GI7NKK>
> > >    1855.2 J35X        22-Mar-2025 1327Z SFH tnx for new slot         

> > > <JR8AMF>
> > >    1865.9 J35X        22-Mar-2025 1327Z SFH tnx for new slot          

> > > <ON4ZD>
> > >   21045.6 J35X        22-Mar-2025 1327Z SFH tnx for new slot         

> > > <SP2RTA>
> > >    3658.7 J35X        22-Mar-2025 1327Z SFH tnx for new slot         

> > > <IK0IHA>
> > >    7053.0 J35X        22-Mar-2025 1327Z SFH tnx for new slot         

> > > <WA2ILB>
> > >   21111.4 J35X        22-Mar-2025 1327Z SFH tnx for new slot         

> > > <IK0LYL>
> > >    1818.3 J35X        22-Mar-2025 1327Z SFH tnx for new slot          

> > > <F4JYF>
> > >    7175.3 J35X        22-Mar-2025 1327Z SFH tnx for new slot         

> > > <R6FS>
> > >   21044.0 J35X        22-Mar-2025 1327Z SFH tnx for new slot          

> > > <F4ALP>
> > >   14173.6 J35X        22-Mar-2025 1327Z SFH tnx for new slot         

> > > <IU5RCJ>
> > >   14308.7 J35X        22-Mar-2025 1327Z SFH tnx for new slot         

> > > <PU2OXB>
> > >   14201.8 J35X        22-Mar-2025 1327Z SFH tnx for new slot         

> > > <EA4M>
> > >    7274.3 J35X        22-Mar-2025 1327Z SFH tnx for new slot          

> > > <G4PEN>
> > >    1877.2 J35X        22-Mar-2025 1327Z SFH tnx for new slot         

> > > <WA1BXY>
> > >   28081.0 J35X        22-Mar-2025 1327Z SFH tnx for new slot          

> > > <G6NHU> On 22 Mar 2025 at 12:30 +0000, Jan via Dxspider-support
<dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk>, wrote:
> > > > Its is flooding again
> > > >
> > > > 73
> > > > Jan
> > > > PA4JJ
> > > >
> > > > --
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