[Dxspider-support] Cluster Abuse and IP Addresses

[ON6HH Roland Huysentruyt]

Hi Lee
Your msg shows  on0dxk as a bad cluster not watched at all.
I am  running  ON0DXK-5  for 18 years now  watching for abuse every day for 
hours.
A lot of calls are in my lockout list,badspot list ,badspotter list etc.
I do what I can .I am a dxer myself and know what bad spots are.
Call abuse is a MINOR PROBLEM compared to all the BAD SPOTS !
- talk via spots
- non dx spots
- selfspotting
- discussions via a spot
- thanking the dxstation via a spot
- dupe spots all the time .
- complaining abt "bad ears" or "no receiver"
- saying "good ears"
- asking to qsy via spots
- saying "no propagation" via spots
etc...etc...
How many are good spots  10 % ?? ore less ...?
Will registration eliminate all this bad spots ? Not at all !
Registration and passwords can help to avoid call abuse but only  if every 
cluster has it.
To force this there is a solution: Changing the clustersoftware that way 
clusters
not using registration can not connect to your cluster.
And if possible a central database for registration and not on every 
cluster.
I am waiting for that day  .
73 Roland ON6HH ,sysop ON0DXK

on6hh at uba.be
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Roland Huysentruyt  Tel 051 303000
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lee Sawkins" <ve7cc at shaw.ca>
To: <dxspider-support at dxcluster.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:49 PM
Subject: [Dxspider-support] Cluster Abuse and IP Addresses


> There was a bit of a discussion about sending IP addresses with DX
> Spots.  I thought I would collect some data and take a look at it.
>
> CC Clusters are now sending DX spots between themselves in a new format
> that includes IP addresses.  This new format is a PC61 that is almost
> the same as the regular PC11 for DX Spots.  However, in a new field
> between the node call and the hops count I have inserted the dotted IP
> address.  These spots are easily converted to PC11 spots when needed.
> DX Summit spots with the node call of OH8X-xx are coming from a spot
> sucker which I am running.  These spots are also going out in the PC61
> format to CC Clusters and PC11 format to everyone else.
>
> I have been analyzing the data.  There are some very interesting groups
> of spots.  For instance, I saw two spots from IP 217.20.189.247.  One
> spotter was RW3DQC and the other JA1CLW.  I checked the spots.  JA1CLW
> made one spot for UR5AS on 160 meters.  RW3DQC made one for another call
> on 20 using PSK31. A sh/dx UR5AS gives many spots, most of which come
> from the ON5DXK-5 node and most for 160 again.  There were a group of 5
> spots for UR5AS in a row, all from the ON0DXK-5 node, from 4 different
> callsigns.   Then I did a sh/dx by UR5AS and found a long list of them
> only from node ON0DXK-5, mostly for 160.  I am not accusing UR5AS of
> anything.  It could be anyone doing this.  The pattern of spots is
> certainly interesting.  There are also spots by TX3A from various IPs.
> Many of these IPs match other calls as well.  There are 3 spots from an
> ISPs proxy server in England.  These are all for a certain G call.  The
> spots come from ZS4, UA9 and W1 calls.
>
> What would be nice is if DX Spider would also send out DX Spots with
> IPs, so we could all take a closer look at what is happening, and try to
> cut down abuse of the system.  Then we can start locking out IPs.
>
> How does registration work with DX Spider nodes?  Can I just log into a
> cluster with any call I want and request registration and it will be
> given, or is there some checking to verify that I really am who I say I
> am?
>
> Lee
>
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