[Dxspider-support] Dxspider-support Digest, Vol 96, Issue 8

Thu Jan 20 02:33:06 GMT 2011

If self-spotting is considered to be "unethical" during contests, it is not
up to the sysop to make that determination as to how the self-spotter is
employing it.  That would be solely in the hands of the contester. 

If a sysop considers it to be an annoyance and not something he or she wants
to have on their node, it could be turned off as a function of that node
solely.  The same way we can turn on and off user registration. 

So, if Dirk can add the code to be able to address self-spotting, it will
placate both sides.

Anthony - N2KI

www.n2ki.com

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[mailto:dxspider-support-bounces at dxcluster.org] On Behalf Of Gary - K7EK
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 5:40 PM
To: dxspider-support at dxcluster.org
Subject: Re: [Dxspider-support] Dxspider-support Digest, Vol 96, Issue 8

I would suggest that the issue of self spotting be solved by enhancements to
the individual filtering options in each dx node. Thus each station can
tailor what he/she sees or does not see on an individual basis. I don't
think adding a lot of extra code to the spider program would  for a blanket
banning of self spots would be a good idea. How hard can it be to enhance
the filtering portion of the node to accomplish this?  The result would be
that there would be no blanket banning of self-spots, which do indeed have
their place. This would leave it to the individual to tailor what they
desire to see without trashing the node for everyone else. Just my two cents
worth.  DX node authors?

Best regards,

Gary, K7EK
K7EK-1 DX Spider Node
W7JD-2 CC Cluster Node

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Today's Topics:

  1. Re: R: Re: Self Spotting (Dana Rawding)

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Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 10:02:02 -0500
From: Dana Rawding <dana at rawding.com>
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Subject: Re: [Dxspider-support] R: Re: Self Spotting
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Not a bad idea but maybe it also need to be switchable by band or at least
only apply to HF.  I would never turn it on if it was going to prevent self
spotting on VHF or up.

Dana
N1OFZ

On Jan 17, 2011, at 2:39 PM, Robert Chalmas wrote:

> This is a very controversial topic which was already discussed a few times
on this list.
>
> Obviously, there is no chance we (and our users too) all agree on this.
>
> On my side, I really hate "self spots", "friend spots", "my club spots",
and similar. I've been modifying the code of DXSpider for many years
(starting 2003) to get rid of what I consider as a nuisance on my node
HB9IAC-8. Not a complex job, just 4 lines to add at the right place to the
/spider/perl/DXProtHandle.pm file (but to do again after each upgrade), and
all "self spots" disappear...not optimal, but the easiest to do...
>
> Several other sysops asked me for this "forbidden" code, one of them being
so discouraged that he was seriously thinking about stopping his node if he
could find no solution to this problem.
>
> I strongly encourage Dirk to add a switch which would enable each user to
choose if he wants to receive "self spots" or not, with a command like
(un)set/selfspots. This seems me a reasonable compromise which would for
sure be ethically better then a full censorship decided by the sysop alone.
>
> 73's
>
> Robert - HB9BZA
>
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Gary E. Kohtala - K7EK / AFF0WA /  AFA0IU / AFE0DM

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