[Dxspider-support] Telnet connection keep alive

Michael Carper, Ph.D. mike at wa9pie.net
Sun Nov 13 23:17:24 GMT 2016


Most of the user disconnects I see are from users attempting to connect
multiple simultaneous times using the same call (with or without SSID).  In
just a couple hours, it looks like this:

User OE3UKW has logged out
User OE3UKW has logged in
User OE3UKW has logged out
User OE3UKW has logged in
User OE3UKW has logged out
User OE3UKW has logged in
User OE3UKW has logged out
User OE3UKW has logged in
User OE3UKW has logged out
User OE3UKW has logged in
User OE3UKW has logged out
User OE3UKW has logged in
User OE3UKW has logged out
User OE3UKW has logged in
User OE3UKW has logged out
User OE3UKW has logged in
User OE3UKW has logged out
User OE3UKW has logged in
User OE3UKW has logged out
User OE3UKW has logged in
User OE3UKW has logged out
User OE3UKW has logged in
User OE3UKW has logged out
User OE3UKW has logged in
User OE3UKW has logged out
User OE3UKW has logged in
User OE3UKW has logged out
User OE3UKW has logged in
User OE3UKW has logged out
User OE3UKW has logged in
User OE3UKW has logged out
User OE3UKW has logged in
User OE3UKW has logged out
User OE3UKW has logged in
User OE3UKW has logged out
User OE3UKW has logged in
User OE3UKW has logged out
User OE3UKW has logged in
User OE3UKW has logged out
User OE3UKW has logged in
User OE3UKW has logged out
User OE3UKW has logged in
User OE3UKW has logged out
User OE3UKW has logged in
User OE3UKW has logged out
User OE3UKW has logged in
User OE3UKW has logged out
User OE3UKW has logged in
User OE3UKW has logged out
User OE3UKW has logged in
User OE3UKW has logged out
User OE3UKW has logged in
User OE3UKW has logged out
User OE3UKW has logged in
User OE3UKW has logged out
User OE3UKW has logged in
User OE3UKW has logged out
User OE3UKW has logged in
User OE3UKW has logged out
User OE3UKW has logged in
User OE3UKW has logged out
User OE3UKW has logged in
User OE3UKW has logged out
User OE3UKW has logged in
User OE3UKW has logged out
User OE3UKW has logged in
User OE3UKW has logged out
User OE3UKW has logged in
User OE3UKW has logged out
User OE3UKW has logged in
User OE3UKW has logged out
User OE3UKW has logged in
User OE3UKW has logged out
User OE3UKW has logged in
User OE3UKW has logged out
User OE3UKW has logged in
User OE3UKW has logged out
User OE3UKW has logged in
User OE3UKW has logged out
User OE3UKW has logged in
User OE3UKW has logged out
User OE3UKW has logged in
User OE3UKW has logged out
User OE3UKW has logged in
User OE3UKW has logged out
User OE3UKW has logged in

(I did email Christian and offered the solution of using separate SSIDs for
each connection and he has rectified this.  This is my process for the
moment when I see users with connection problems like this ("logged
in/logged out").

Mike, WA9PIE

On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 4:06 PM, Pascal Stevenhaagen [PB1SAM] via
Dxspider-support <dxspider-support at dxcluster.org> wrote:

> The problem is that NAT and firewall don't know when a connection is ended.
> Therefore they work with a timeout.
> After the last packet is been send it starts a timeout.
> When no data is received/send anymore in the timeout time,
> the NAT/firewall function assumes the connection is ended, and forgets the
> session.
> That is the reason why your connection is lost.
> When you use Linux for NAT/firewall, you can make a rule for port 9000
> (or whatever port you use for connecting the cluster), and give it a long
> timeout time.
>
> On home routers/firewalls I am afraid there are no options to do this.
> Greetings,
>
> Pascal PB1SAM
>
> On 11/13/2016 10:54 PM, Rene Olsen via Dxspider-support wrote:
>
>> Hi.
>>
>> Some home routers have settings that are not very friendly to low traffic
>> connections.
>>
>> Some of them have a timeout of just 5 minutes, and tears down the
>> connection of there
>> hasn't been a noticeble amount of trafic on the connection.
>>
>> Not even a CR and a prompt back from spider, is enough traffic to
>> maintain the connection
>> open.
>>
>> I have no idea why they do this. But since it is home routers, it is
>> probably a question about
>> money and ressources in the router.
>>
>> I had a linksys router once, and with the default firmware I wasn't able
>> to change the timeout
>> setting, and it was just not able to maintain the connection to the
>> cluser, when there was very
>> low number of spots.
>>
>> After an update to some third party firmware, I was able to change the
>> timeout setting, and
>> since then I didn't have any problems at all.
>>
>> So in my opinion most diconnect issues, can be explained by the router in
>> use.
>>
>> And its not like the router tells both ends, that the connection has been
>> closed. No, it just
>> removes it from the NAT table and thats it.
>>
>> Of course there is good and bad routers out there. I can only talk from
>> my own experiences
>> with home routers in the past.
>>
>> Vy 73 de René / OZ1LQH
>>
>
>
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