[Dxspider-support] Dx-World and DxCluster

[Dirk Koopman]

I don't wish to appear rude, OK perhaps only a bit rude.

Do you have any idea of how much work is involved in providing this 
service? Do you have a ready group of client program writers that are 
prepared to put the work in to provide users with what they went out of 
the service that you propose (over and above what cluster nodes now 
provide)? Do you have power over the existing logging/contest  
applications programmers to force them to use your proposed system? What 
new special sauce is this system going to provide that users will want? 
In fact, in what technical way is the existing system actually broken, 
that your proposal would fix?  Oh, and before I forget, who is going to 
pay for this centralised system - both for its implementation and its 
running costs?

How do you intend to police the content?  Because that is the problem 
that we are trying to solve in the here and now. There are no technical 
challenges, of any consequence, that cannot be solved in the existing 
system.

What we somehow need to do: is solve/fix the people using it. Preferably 
in a more effective and humane way than Twitter is managing to do.

If you want to throw out 25 1/2 years of work (there may, unfortunately, 
be some detectable hyperbole there) and start again from scratch - you 
are palpably "reinventing the wheel". Which is fine, "go you right ahead 
bor" (as they might say in Norfolk). I would wish you well, I really 
would. That's how and why I started after all.

In the meantime, if you have any _*new*_ suggestions as to how Lee and I 
can detect and remove or, better yet, prevent more of the bad stuff 
getting online in the first place - on the system that we have today - 
please tell us. Offline would be good,

Thank you for your attention

Dirk G1TLH

On 11/02/2023 08:48, "Fabián Malnero, EB1TR" via Dxspider-support wrote:
> Perhaps it would be necessary to think in a more pragmatic way about 
> not "reinventing the wheel".
>
> There are applications that solve all transport needs in an extremely 
> efficient, centralized, secure and scalable way.
>
> Implementations like MQTT, Kafka, EMQX can be more than valid 
> solutions, solidly proven and linked to balancing systems (HAProxy, 
> NGinx, Traeffic, etc.) and some additional services for information 
> verification can be an ideal solution. If all this were open source 
> and deployed in the cloud, we would be talking about an ambitious and 
> modern project.
>
> This, obviously, cannot be done if development is not centralized and 
> we all push towards a common goal. Perhaps the decentralization of 
> nodes is part of the problem.
>
> Greetings.
>
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>> El 10 feb 2023, a las 14:5115, Luigi Carlotto IK5ZUK via 
>> Dxspider-support <dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk> escribió:
>>
>> Hello all,
>> please read carefully this article apperared today on Dx-World web site:
>>
>> https://www.dx-world.net/unacceptable-behaviour-on-dx-clusters/
>>
>> 73 Luigi IK5ZUK
>>
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