[Dxspider-support] Dx-World and DxCluster

Sat Feb 11 13:52:52 GMT 2023

Hello All

Too much, when in reality it is arranged with username and password in each node.

I have running DXSpider V1.55 build 250 Windows, and the mojo version does not work SH/DX something, SH/ANN, SH/REG and SET/BADIP does not work in IPV4 format, but, BUT... in my node it is MANDATORY to be registered to send information to the network.

It is so difficult?

Then, the nodes that do not have that minimum configuration are blocked in the future.

In my node the motd_nor file say to a unregistered users:

===============================================================================

           ONLY PREVIOUSLY REGISTERED USERS MAY SEND DX SPOTS HERE!

            SEND AN EMAIL TO CX2SA at CX2SA.NET REQUESTING PASSWORD.

===============================================================================

Yesterday I received a registration request from a Mexican radio amateur.

Any bad practice of the colleague, I expel him from the node.

Very easy and fast.

Best 73, Jose

De: Dxspider-support [mailto:dxspider-support-bounces at tobit.co.uk] En nombre de Dirk Koopman via Dxspider-support
Enviado el: sábado, 11 de febrero de 2023 10:26
Para: dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk
CC: Dirk Koopman
Asunto: Re: [Dxspider-support] Dx-World and DxCluster

I don't wish to appear rude, OK perhaps only a bit rude. 

Do you have any idea of how much work is involved in providing this service? Do you have a ready group of client program writers that are prepared to put the work in to provide users with what they went out of the service that you propose (over and above what cluster nodes now provide)? Do you have power over the existing logging/contest  applications programmers to force them to use your proposed system? What new special sauce is this system going to provide that users will want? In fact, in what technical way is the existing system actually broken, that your proposal would fix?  Oh, and before I forget, who is going to pay for this centralised system - both for its implementation and its running costs? 

How do you intend to police the content?  Because that is the problem that we are trying to solve in the here and now. There are no technical challenges, of any consequence, that cannot be solved in the existing system. 

What we somehow need to do: is solve/fix the people using it. Preferably in a more effective and humane way than Twitter is managing to do. 

If you want to throw out 25 1/2 years of work (there may, unfortunately, be some detectable hyperbole there) and start again from scratch - you are palpably "reinventing the wheel". Which is fine, "go you right ahead bor" (as they might say in Norfolk). I would wish you well, I really would. That's how and why I started after all.

In the meantime, if you have any new suggestions as to how Lee and I can detect and remove or, better yet, prevent more of the bad stuff getting online in the first place - on the system that we have today - please tell us. Offline would be good,

Thank you for your attention

Dirk G1TLH

On 11/02/2023 08:48, "Fabián Malnero, EB1TR" via Dxspider-support wrote:

Perhaps it would be necessary to think in a more pragmatic way about not "reinventing the wheel".

There are applications that solve all transport needs in an extremely efficient, centralized, secure and scalable way.

Implementations like MQTT, Kafka, EMQX can be more than valid solutions, solidly proven and linked to balancing systems (HAProxy, NGinx, Traeffic, etc.) and some additional services for information verification can be an ideal solution. If all this were open source and deployed in the cloud, we would be talking about an ambitious and modern project.

This, obviously, cannot be done if development is not centralized and we all push towards a common goal. Perhaps the decentralization of nodes is part of the problem.

Greetings.

  _____  

Fabián Malnero, EB1TR
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El 10 feb 2023, a las 14:5115, Luigi Carlotto IK5ZUK via Dxspider-support <dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk> escribió:

Hello all,
please read carefully this article apperared today on Dx-World web site:

https://www.dx-world.net/unacceptable-behaviour-on-dx-clusters/

73 Luigi IK5ZUK

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