[Dxspider-support] Public IPs of nodes like "localhost"

Sun Apr 6 16:54:41 BST 2025

Come on guys play nice! If I, an American, can follow along then tech has
dome a fine job helping to remove language barriers.

Rick, we understand your frustration. You are not the only sysop who is
having trouble. Yes, there is lots to follow. However, choosing to run a
public service (even voluntarily) is like any other service digital or
physical. If you want to stay present and useful it takes work, time, and
dedication to provide for the users. No matter what software you use.
Perhaps inviting a fellow ham to help administer the node would help
relieve some of the stress and help educate/mentor another ham.

Recent events have caused necessary changes in the way the cluster is
operating. Almost all of the events we have experienced have been due to a
lack of evolution with the networks and risks involved around the cluster.
I am speaking from a cyber security point of view. To be realistic, we are
lucky this is all we have seen. It could be so much worse should the
cluster become the target of malicious actors. Dirk is doing everything he
can to keep everyone involved, but there will come a time when obsolete
nodes will have to be purged. Please, understand these changes are not made
to frustrate the sysops but to provide the best service we can to the users
(our friends and comrades).

Please, think about joining the Discord server (link is on the wiki or I
can send it to you). Perhaps someone can work one on one with you to help.

73, Chris WI3W

On Sun, Apr 6, 2025, 11:25 Mikel EA2CW via Dxspider-support <
dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk> wrote:

> Dear Jan,
>
> As far as this is international, and not said to be compulsory the use of
> the language of some countries only, I don't see any problem, as you could
> also use any of the translator apps from spanish to english, can't you?
> 73, Mikel
>
>
>
>
> ---- El dom., 06 abr. 2025 17:10:56 +0200 * dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk
> <dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk> escribió * ----
>
> Come on guys
> This is an international reflector.
> Iif you want to read these messages in Spanish I suggest to use google
> translate...
> Or send a direct mail to the user you want to ask something in your own
> language.
>
> 73
> Jan
> PA4JJ
>
> Op 6-4-2025 om 17:07 schreef Ricardo Suarez via Dxspider-support:
>
> Hola, Mikel
>
> Yo esperaba una respuesta tipo "deberias escribir tal cosa", pero tu
> respuesta da fe de lo que decia, tenemos mas "policias de la red" que se
> quieren hacer ver que gente que realmente quieran ayudar a los otros a
> mantener el sistema funcionando.
>
> No es bueno tener que rogar que los comandos necesarios al buen
> funcionamiento  sean descriptos detalladamente.
>
> Probablemente yo prefiera pasar a otro software server de Cluster a
> apagarlo, pero lo haré cuando me apetezca.
>
> (Sono spiacente che ti sia caduto male che scriva in Spagnolo, perdo un
> sacco di tempo in fare che il mio stato d'animo si capisca in una lingua
> che non é la mia, ma posso anche farlo in italiano, che mi risulta molto
> piú facile e, sicuramente, non dovrai andare su Google)
>
> Rick LU9DA
> El 6/4/2025 a las 14:27, Ea2cw via Dxspider-support escribió:
>
> Completamente de acuerdo contigo, Rick.
> Si no te ves capaz de mantener tu nodo actualizado, lo mejor es que lo
> apagues y dejes el asunto en manos de los que no tenemos nada mejor que
> hacer.
>
> Te contesto en castellano para que te sea mas facil entenderlo. (Bestela
> euskeraz egin dezaket eta gero gogglen bidez itzuli dezakezu )
>
> Ondo izan,
>
> 73 Mikel
>
> Obtén BlueMail para móvil <https://bluemail.me/download/>
> Ricardo Suarez via Dxspider-support wrote:
>
>
> Bueno, esto es -realmente- muy molesto
>
> ¿cual seria el comando correcto para poner en el script startup para
> cargar la ip de mi cluster (LU9DA-6), dado que tiene ip externa fija?
>
> El cluster, de un tiempo a esta parte, se transformo de un servicio a los
> colegas locales en algo molesto y consumidor de tiempo.
>
> Ya se esta haciendo imposible seguir la cantidad absurda de mails diarios
> con quejas de "esto esta mal configurado"  o "aquello genera problemas" Va
> a terminar siendo mejor, para la salud mental de los que no vivimos del
> cluster, apagarlo y que se encarguen los que tienen tiempo para dedicarse
> a eso 24/7 los 365 dias del año.
>
> O, para resolver de una vez por todas, alguien va a tener que hacer de
> manera tal que al momento de la instalacion o el upgrade a un build nuevo,
> pida los datos que necesita en vez de obligar a estar leyendo cientos de
> mails que, en resumidas cuentas, en vez de aclarar o poner -explicitamente-
> lo que es necesario escribir en la terminal cada vez, suman a los que nos
> tenemos que encargar en la oscuridad, haciendonos sentir completamente
> inutiles.
>
> Es mi punto de vista, escrito en castellano, porque creo que asi puedo
> expresar realmente lo que siento esta mañana, cada cual puede traducirlo
> usando google.
>
>
> Rick LU9DA
>
>
> ps. Sorry, written in Spanish because I'm not in the mood to think in
> English today. You can translate it with Google.
>
>
> El 6/4/2025 a las 07:57, Kin via Dxspider-support escribió:
>
> Hi all,
>
> The following nodes send their public IP to the network as "localhost."
> They are using builds 611 and 612, so they are updated, but not their IP.
>
> BG2RVL-9
> IK6IHL-6
> IK6XMI-6
> IK7NXU-6
> IZ3MEZ-15
> IZ7AUH-6
> LU9DA-6
> VA3BAL-1
> VK5GR-2
>
> Please use the set/external_ip command and include it in the crontab as Dirk
> indicated, or you can also use the set/update_ip command I created for the
> WAN and LAN IPs.
> This procedure works for both static and dynamic IPs.
>
> Having a poorly defined IP can result in the loss of spots.
>
> Kin EA3CV
>
>
>
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> Bueno, esto es -realmente- muy molesto
>
> ¿cual seria el comando correcto para poner en el script startup para
> cargar la ip de mi cluster (LU9DA-6), dado que tiene ip externa fija?
>
> El cluster, de un tiempo a esta parte, se transformo de un servicio a los
> colegas locales en algo molesto y consumidor de tiempo.
>
> Ya se esta haciendo imposible seguir la cantidad absurda de mails diarios
> con quejas de "esto esta mal configurado"  o "aquello genera problemas" Va
> a terminar siendo mejor, para la salud mental de los que no vivimos del
> cluster, apagarlo y que se encarguen los que tienen tiempo para dedicarse
> a eso 24/7 los 365 dias del año.
>
> O, para resolver de una vez por todas, alguien va a tener que hacer de
> manera tal que al momento de la instalacion o el upgrade a un build nuevo,
> pida los datos que necesita en vez de obligar a estar leyendo cientos de
> mails que, en resumidas cuentas, en vez de aclarar o poner -explicitamente-
> lo que es necesario escribir en la terminal cada vez, suman a los que nos
> tenemos que encargar en la oscuridad, haciendonos sentir completamente
> inutiles.
>
> Es mi punto de vista, escrito en castellano, porque creo que asi puedo
> expresar realmente lo que siento esta mañana, cada cual puede traducirlo
> usando google.
>
>
> Rick LU9DA
>
>
> ps. Sorry, written in Spanish because I'm not in the mood to think in
> English today. You can translate it with Google.
>
>
> El 6/4/2025 a las 07:57, Kin via Dxspider-support escribió:
>
> Hi all,
>
> The following nodes send their public IP to the network as "localhost."
> They are using builds 611 and 612, so they are updated, but not their IP.
>
> BG2RVL-9
> IK6IHL-6
> IK6XMI-6
> IK7NXU-6
> IZ3MEZ-15
> IZ7AUH-6
> LU9DA-6
> VA3BAL-1
> VK5GR-2
>
> Please use the set/external_ip command and include it in the crontab as Dirk
> indicated, or you can also use the set/update_ip command I created for the
> WAN and LAN IPs.
> This procedure works for both static and dynamic IPs.
>
> Having a poorly defined IP can result in the loss of spots.
>
> Kin EA3CV
>
>
>
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