[Dxspider-support] You are killing all Webclusters!

[Erwin Fiten]

Or can we create a whitelist from known webclusters that only allow
VERIFIED users to spot?  Like the global 'badIP' list?
I think this is the easiest resolution to this problem.
We contact the well-known webclusters to check that they verify their
users, if that's the case, we KNOW that the spots from the callsign that
webcluster uses, are LEGIT.
We expand this whitelist as we contact more webclusters, but only add them
to the whitelist when they verify their logins?

A good proposal? And it's not that difficult to implement ? @Dirk Koopman
G1TLH <g1tlh at dxcluster.org>

Erwin ON8AR, sysop ON0NOL-9

Op vr 7 mrt 2025 om 08:03 schreef Iain Philipps via Dxspider-support <
dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk>:

>
>    - The situation today is not so dramatic, but I agree with you that
>    something needs to be reviewed and we have to rethink a suitable way to
>    contrast the attacks we have seen.
>
>
>    1. Register all users with a password
>    2. Pass user connection state to “the network”
>
>
>
> I would assume that a group of people capable of creating these large
> scale web clusters could also arrange to do the above …
>
> Just my view.
>
> 73 de WR3D
>
>
>
> *From:* Dxspider-support <dxspider-support-bounces at tobit.co.uk> *On
> Behalf Of *IZ2LSC via Dxspider-support
> *Sent:* 07 March 2025 06:52
> *To:* The DXSpider Support list <dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk>
> *Cc:* IZ2LSC <iz2lsc.andrea at gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Dxspider-support] You are killing all Webclusters!
>
>
>
> Hi Tobias,
> Just a clarification.
> The list show "unverified" spot received by my node. So if I received
> these spots it means they were not dropped before. Not all dxspider nodes
> are dropping these spot for several reasons (SW not updated, different cfg
> from default).  On my node for example the unverified spot are accepted and
> pass through. They are dropped only when a flood is detected and I have a
> direct connection with dxfun.
>
> The situation today is not so dramatic, but I agree with you that
> something needs to be reviewed and we have to rethink a suitable way to
> contrast the attacks we have seen.
>
> 73s
>
> Andre
>
> IZ2LSC
>
> /// sent from my mobile device \\\
>
>
>
> Il ven 7 mar 2025, 03:09 Mikel EA2CW via Dxspider-support <
> dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk> ha scritto:
>
> FYI,
>
> * Unfortunately, I was not able to calculate how many "real" fake spots
> were dropped due to the $DXProt::sendverify = 2, because it could not be
>   determined how many of the users of the webclusters analysed were
> really logged at them and how many were "injected"
> ===========================================
>
> Spots sent / rejected from listed webclusters
> during the 48 hours of the ARRL SSB Contest
> March 1 & 2, 2025 (data at EA2CW-2)
>
> NODE     -> WEBCLUSTER  Tot. Qs   Qs/h
>                          Dropped  Dropped
> ========    ==========  =======  =======
> EA4RCH-5 -> dxfun.com .... 6242 .. 130
> DH1TW-2  -> dxheat.com.... 4463 ..  93
> PY1NB-4  -> dxwatch.com ..... 0 .... 0
> EA6VQ-2  -> dxmaps.com .... 233 .... 5
> DO5SSB-2 -> qrzcq.com ..... 864 ... 18
>
> ========================================
>
> Total spots rejected..... 11802 .. 248
> Total spots accepted..... 39691 .. 827
> Total spots.............. 51493 . 1072
> % spots rejected............ 23%
>
> --
> 73 de Mikel Berrocal EA2CW-AE2CW
> Bilbao, Basque Country
> ea2cw at gautxori.com
> https://www.ea2cw.eus
>
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